Author Topic: Solved TGF-150: Raba bus by Star Garage (H), 1936 (Read 547 times)

targhediferro · « **on:** July 05, 2013, 10:07:42 AM »

I'd like to know maker and coachbuilder of this pre-war bus.

ropat53 · « **Reply #1 on:** July 05, 2013, 01:44:40 PM »

RHD

Scandinavian?

targhediferro · « **Reply #2 on:** July 05, 2013, 03:41:11 PM »

Not Scandinavian.

Hiawatha · « **Reply #3 on:** July 05, 2013, 04:04:03 PM »

Eastern Europe?

Bill Murray · « **Reply #4 on:** July 05, 2013, 04:17:19 PM »

I think it is Swiss, or at least in Switzerland. Cannot get any further yet.
Bill

targhediferro · « **Reply #5 on:** July 05, 2013, 06:14:52 PM »

Quote from: Hiawatha on July 05, 2013, 04:04:03 PM

Eastern Europe?

Some way right.

Quote from: Bill Murray on July 05, 2013, 04:17:19 PM

I think it is Swiss, or at least in Switzerland. Cannot get any further yet.
Bill

Yes it is Swiss.
Locked for Bill and Hiawatha for another answer each.

Bill Murray · « **Reply #6 on:** July 06, 2013, 06:54:36 AM »

This does not fit with Switzerland, but I think it is a Mavag with body by Star Garage.
Both Hungarian.
Bill

Hiawatha · « **Reply #7 on:** July 06, 2013, 11:12:58 AM »

I think we have to go deeper to solve the puzzle..
The picture was taken in Gyor (Hungary) in front of the local transport premises and the bus was used on the Gyor-Sopron interurban line.
Unfortunately Hungarian is one of the most difficult languages to decipher, but I have the feling the bus could be a Raba.
Fabrizio, could you please check your source?

Bill Murray · « **Reply #8 on:** July 06, 2013, 11:49:10 AM »

You are quite correct on the photo locale etc.
Also quite correct on the difficulty with the Hungarian language.

I found this photo on a bookmark I have on Coachwork by Uhri/Uhrin and also another bookmark on Mavag busses. However the site you are referring to seems to describe it as a Raba as you say.
I am not to clear on whether Raba/Mavag have any association which might help if there is any.

It may, in any case, be a Raba with body by Uhri/Uhrin.

Bill

Hiawatha · « **Reply #9 on:** July 06, 2013, 01:56:53 PM »

I'm not sure whether Mavag and Ràba had any connection. The Ràba factory was based in Gyor where the picture was taken, but that's all I know.

Bill Murray · « **Reply #10 on:** July 06, 2013, 03:18:31 PM »

Hi Luciano:

I did some further research on Mavag/Raba on Hungarian sites and there seems to be no connection.
Both chose different licensing partners and would appear to have been competitors.

I still only have the same photo and information you have so I think you are correct that it is a Raba but I have had no luck so far with the coachbuilder. I still also do not understand the Swiss connection confirmed by Fabrizio which I think may be an error.

Bill

targhediferro · « **Reply #11 on:** July 06, 2013, 04:53:12 PM »

I'm sorry but I won't be able to check my source until Monday.

ropat53 · « **Reply #12 on:** July 06, 2013, 06:04:41 PM »

I think pnegyesi may be the person to ask.

Hiawatha · « **Reply #13 on:** July 07, 2013, 03:55:27 AM »

Hi,
If I remember correctly links are not permitted in puzzles. You may want to check with a moderator to make sure.
Luciano

ropat53 · « **Reply #14 on:** July 07, 2013, 10:16:24 AM »

I'm sorry I shouldn't have even answered because it still hasn't been unlocked.
I erased the link I posted, but I thought links from Autopuzzles were allowed?
Fortunately what I posted contained no new information.

targhediferro · « **Reply #15 on:** July 08, 2013, 05:27:17 AM »

I've checked and I think Luciano and Bill are right. The bus is a Raba and have no connection with Switzerland...I got wrong because I found another picture (the one I post today) and I identified as a Saurer the puzzle-bus. The coachbuilder is Star Garage from Gyor (H), as Bill yet suggested. So I think it's fair to give a point both to Bill and to Luciano. Is than a Saurer the other bus?

Hiawatha · « **Reply #16 on:** July 08, 2013, 05:34:33 AM »

Excellent news.. a truly international team effort!

Bill Murray · « **Reply #17 on:** July 08, 2013, 07:30:40 AM »

Lots of fun but a bit frustrating too.

Regarding the second bus, I had that photo a few days ago and did not save it nor did I save the site where I saw it. I have now spent an hour and a half trying to find it again but no luck.

I believe it is a Mavag-Mercedes based on the appearance. Mercedes was the primary partner with Mavag in the mid-late 1930's from what I can get from Hungarian sites.

In any case, I think the three of us solved the original puzzle photo correctly.

Bill

pnegyesi · « **Reply #18 on:** July 08, 2013, 04:39:25 PM »

Please correct the date, this bus was done in 1936.

targhediferro · « **Reply #19 on:** July 09, 2013, 04:53:00 AM »

Sorry, a tiping mistake.

pguillem · « **Reply #20 on:** July 09, 2013, 09:58:50 PM »

The second bus is not a Saurer, but a Rába Super.

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Author Topic: Solved TGF-150: Raba bus by Star Garage (H), 1936 (Read 547 times)