Topic: Solved - Bus Puzzle No. 5

[pguillem]

Guesses have dropped off so it's time to change the rules slightly.
It will be 4 points per puzzler from 1700 hrs today UK time (1800 hrs Central European and 1200 hrs Eastern USA time).

A little explanation please. Does "It will be 4 points per puzzler" mean :

a)  it will be  4 additional points per puzzler

or

b) it will be a total of 4 points per puzzler

You understand that I interpreted that new rule in a conservative way, considering your precedent messages, and that I have some answers in stock.

Thanks

[Wendax]

8: Curtiss Aerocar, Transcontinental Air Transport, 1929
14: Chollima 70, made by the Pyongyang Trolleybus Works, between 1970 and 1972, operated in Pyongyang

[Hiawatha]

Based on pguillem comments, I hope I didn't misunderstand the new rules. If that's the case I will of course accept Carnut's decisions.

[ropat53]

I only answered two more because I understood it was limited to a total of only four per puzzler.

[Craig Gillingham]

No.10 Leyland Tiger PS1, with Burlingham coachwork?

No.17 is a Daimler Roadliner SRC6. The coachwork was made by Freighter Industries in Adelaide. I'm not sure what year it was built, I know it was delivered in 1969, but the chassis could have been built 1967-68. The bus operated in Adelaide, run by the STA.

[Carnut]

Guesses have dropped off so it's time to change the rules slightly.
It will be 4 points per puzzler from 1700 hrs today UK time (1800 hrs Central European and 1200 hrs Eastern USA time).

A little explanation please. Does "It will be 4 points per puzzler" mean :

a)  it will be  4 additional points per puzzler

or

b) it will be a total of 4 points per puzzler

You understand that I interpreted that new rule in a conservative way, considering your precedent messages, and that I have some answers in stock.

Thanks

Based on pguillem comments, I hope I didn't misunderstand the new rules. If that's the case I will of course accept Carnut's decisions.

If you look at the initial post I amended it to say:

"Maximum 2 4 points per Puzzler for starters (changed as from 01/09), unless I give special dispensation. This avoids any one individual identifying everything."

I'm sorry if I wasn't clear, but I thought I was; I didn't say anything about 4 more points, just that each puzzler could get 4 points.  I've now amended my post so it is clearer.

However, most have interpreted correctly so I'll deal with the answers tomorrow when I get the time (most, but not all, are right).  But Hiawatha - you'll have to remove 2 answers of your choice!  Sorry.

[Carnut]

#7 – 1959 Bedford SB3 – Body by H.V. Burlingham - What's unusual about it: All glass fiber 41 seater body.

#11 – Where operated:  Chicago – It’s the first model made by Chicago Motor Bus Co. in 1917.

Yes and Yes!  So there are your 2 more points..

[Carnut]

Let's go !
#4  is a General American Aerocoach from 1952 named Peacemaker
#12 is a Guy prototype bodied by Busaf operated in Port Elisabeth

The are both correct but you haven't described the chassis for #12 so have another look at that and complete the question for your point; 1 more for you in the meantime.

[Carnut]

5)   1930 Panhard & Levassor Scemia K34 operated in Toulouse (France(
18) 1963 Ford Thames Trader, Strachan body, used to carry bycicles through Dartford Tunnel (UK)

Both right so another 2 points for Hiawatha.

[Carnut]

8: Curtiss Aerocar, Transcontinental Air Transport, 1929
14: Chollima 70, made by the Pyongyang Trolleybus Works, between 1970 and 1972, operated in Pyongyang

14 is correct but I have No. 8 a bit different.
'Aero' does figure in the name but I suppose the body was built by Curtiss?  I'm actually looking for the chassis-maker?
Also the operator was not Transcontinental and the date is a little out..
So that's 1 more point so far and a bit more digging to do..

[Carnut]

No.10 Leyland Tiger PS1, with Burlingham coachwork?

No.17 is a Daimler Roadliner SRC6. The coachwork was made by Freighter Industries in Adelaide. I'm not sure what year it was built, I know it was delivered in 1969, but the chassis could have been built 1967-68. The bus operated in Adelaide, run by the STA.

No. 17 is correct so that's another point, but No. 10 is not quite right.  It's a Burlingham body but not a Leyland..
I'll lock that one for you to look into..

[Wendax]

8: Curtiss Aerocar, Transcontinental Air Transport, 1929

'Aero' does figure in the name but I suppose the body was built by Curtiss?  I'm actually looking for the chassis-maker?
Also the operator was not Transcontinental and the date is a little out..
So that's 1 more point so far and a bit more digging to do..

#8 is a 15 passenger Aero Coach towed by a 1930 Buick Model 26 Business Coupe. The rig belonged to Colonial Coach Lines which was eventually merged into Canada Coach Lines.

[Carnut]

That's better!  I actually had the date as slightly earlier (1926/7) but the photo was taken in 1930, though I think it's open to conjecture, so now you have your fourth point.

[pguillem]

Let's go !
#4  is a General American Aerocoach from 1952 named Peacemaker
#12 is a Guy prototype bodied by Busaf operated in Port Elisabeth

The are both correct but you haven't described the chassis for #12 so have another look at that and complete the question for your point; 1 more for you in the meantime.

I just have this description : "Port Elizabeth #1000, Busaf’s prototype double-decker on a Guy front-engined chassis that Leylands intended for single-deck applications."

[Carnut]

OK, that will do.  This double-decker was built on a chassis intended for single-deckers; that's what I was after!

[Craig Gillingham]

No.10 Leyland Tiger PS1, with Burlingham coachwork?

No.17 is a Daimler Roadliner SRC6. The coachwork was made by Freighter Industries in Adelaide. I'm not sure what year it was built, I know it was delivered in 1969, but the chassis could have been built 1967-68. The bus operated in Adelaide, run by the STA.

No. 17 is correct so that's another point, but No. 10 is not quite right.  It's a Burlingham body but not a Leyland..
I'll lock that one for you to look into..

I've found the photo of this particular bus, it's a Maudslay. But I can't find any more info about model or year,etc.

[Carnut]

I've found the photo of this particular bus, it's a Maudslay. But I can't find any more info about model or year,etc.

That's OK because I only asked for the make and the bodybuilder and you've given me both those.
Actually I think it's a Maudslay Marathon III from around 1949/50, with a body that was built on various different chassis by Burlingham and was known as their 'Sunseeker' body.
Anyway, it's another point for you.

[Carnut]

Answers have come to a full stop, so it's time to change the rules again slightly and allow a maximum of 6 points per puzzler from 1700 hrs today Central European Time.

So that means those with 4 points can now identify another 2, and so on up to a maximum of 6 points.

[pguillem]

#13 : Maudslay bodied by Burlingham, Airflow body
#15 : Daimler Freeline bodied by Bellhouse-Hartwell for Blue Cars

[Hiawatha]

Number 9) Atkinson, Burlingham body, operated by Woods

Number 23) Rutland Clipper made by Motor Traction Ltd. Whitson body

[ropat53]

#20 Make: Daimler CRG6-36. Bodybuilder: BUSAP 85 seat - Where operated: Johannesburg - Year 1968/69


#6 Make: AEC ACLO; Model: Regent III - Mark III or 3; Bodybulider: Macosa; Year 1953; Where operated: Barcelona
  "The operator Tranvías de Barcelona imported from England 50 double-decker chassis AEC (in Spain, marketed as ACLO). Vehicles nº 401-445 were bodied at the factory Carde y Escoriaza incorporating only one central air folding door used as both passenger entrance and exit.
The last five vehicles had a platform opened up at the rear where an access staircase to the top deck was fitted, although these were bodied by Macosa.
During 1953  more units were delivered: nºs 475-494 with  Macosa bodywork and open rear platform. The whole series was painted in the operator's red and cream livery except those used on interurban services which were green. These buses remained without modifications during practically all their active life."

[Carnut]

All new answers are correct!
Well done guys.


The Rutland Clipper is an interesting one.
Only 2 of these were ever built by Motor Traction Ltd., which only existed for 4 years from 1952-6.  They mainly offered commercial vehicles but the passenger chassis was first shown in prototype form in 1953.  The first one built had a 6-cylinder Perkins R6 diesel engine mounted longitudinally, whilst the only other one was built in 1954 with a 4-cylinder Meadows diesel engine.

Here's another picture of a Barcelona ACLO AEC Regent III with the Carde y Escoriaza bodywork:

[targhediferro]

Number 32 shold be one of the Columbia Coach Work bus, built in 1935 when the Pickwick Motor Coach works went into bankrupt; it was one of the last bus of the Nite Coach series (Pickwick Greyhound line or perhaps All American Line, in this last case it should be Yellow).

[Carnut]

Number 32 shold be one of the Columbia Coach Work bus, built in 1935 when the Pickwick Motor Coach works went into bankrupt; it was one of the last bus of the Nite Coach series (Pickwick Greyhound line or perhaps All American Line, in this last case it should be Yellow).

It was one of the Nite Coach series buses, and it was built by Yellow Coach, but it wasn't built in 1935.
However, you haven't quite grasped exactly what this bus is or what it was built for so I'll lock it for you to delve into and find the right answer.

[targhediferro]

I don't know if this is what you're searching for, but I found that this bus (actually from 1933), was used in the film Sullivan's Travel in 1941.
I can add that many of Nite coaches, after 1935-6 have been used as charter bus, rented by music bands, politicians.
All American Nite Coaches was the first line that offered a coast-to-coast service without operator change.