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Solved - Bus Puzzle No. 5
« on: August 05, 2013, 11:29:47 AM »
It's time for another Bus Puzzle!

This time I’m not going to be quite so generous with awarding points; see the Solutions post for what it is I’m looking for to earn 1 point.  Some of the information I have is a bit sparse so if you can add something to what I’m looking for there may be another point on offer for that!

Once again there are various rules which must be followed:

1) Maximum 2 4 6 7 points per Puzzler for starters (changed as from 01/09, 15/09 and again from 08/10), unless I give special dispensation. This avoids any one individual identifying everything.
2) Points will be awarded as we go along according to the information given.
3) I don't necessarily know as much as the Puzzler, so I may ask for links to check out the answers.
4) Do I need to say that Google Search by Image MAY NOT BE USED to find the answers?!

Happy puzzling.

First set of pictures (3 lots of 12):
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Re: Bus Puzzle No. 5
« Reply #1 on: August 05, 2013, 11:32:54 AM »
Second set of 12:

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Re: Bus Puzzle No. 5
« Reply #2 on: August 05, 2013, 11:36:44 AM »
Third and final set:

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Re: Bus Puzzle No. 5
« Reply #3 on: August 05, 2013, 11:37:19 AM »
Solutions and points awarded (buses still to be identified are in red):

1.   Make - Foden (1934 model); Operator - Ebor Bus Company of Mansfield.  1 point to Hiawatha
2.   Make - Crossley (Six); Year - 1929; Purpose - Coronation bus 1937 for King George VI.  1 point to Hiawatha.
3.   Location: Al Rasheed Street, Baghdad.  Year: 1950 (but more likely 1954).  1 point to Tom_I.
4.   Name of coach: General American Aerocoach 1952.  1 point to pguillem.
5.   Make: Panhard-Levassor. Model: K34. Year: 1930.  1 point to Hiawatha.
6.   Make: ACLO AEC. Model: Regent III. Bodybuilder: Macosa. Year: 1948. Where operated: Barcelona. 1 pt to ropat53.
7.   Make: Bedford. Bodybuilder: Burlingham. What is unusual about it: It's glassfibre-bodied.  1 point to ropat53.
8.   Make: Buick.  Model: Aero Coach. Operator: Colonial Coach Lines. Date:1926/7. 1 point to Wendax.
9.   Make: Atkinson. Bodybuilder: Burlingham. Operator: Woods.  1 point to Hiawatha.
10. Make: Maudslay (Marathon). Bodybuilder: Burlingham (Sunseeker). 1 point to craig gillingham.
11. Where operated: Chicago Double-decker from 1917.  1 point to ropat53.
12. Make: Guy. Bodybuilder: BUSAF. Built on a chassis intender for single-deck buses. 1 point to pguillem.
13. Make: Maudslay. Bodybuilder: Burlingham. Name of body: Airflow coach.  1 pt to pguillem.
14. Make: Cholima 70. Where operated: Pyongyang, N. Korea.  1 point to Wendax.
15. Make/model: Daimler Freeline, Bodybuilder and name of body: Barker Bellhouse. 1 pt to pguillem.
16. Make: Crossley. Operator: Dutch Railways. Year: 1947.  1 point to Wendax.
17. Make: Daimler. Model: Roadliner SRC6 operated in Adelaide.  1 p;oint to Craig Gillingham
18. Where operated and purpose: Thames Trader Dartford Tunnel Cycle Bus.  1 point to Hiawatha.
19. Make: Probably Rollie Fageol's Eight Wheel Motor Vehicle Co. Operated in: San Francisco. 1 point to ropat53
20. Make: Daimler CRG6. Bodybuilder: BUSAF. Where operated: Johannesburg. Year: 1969. 1 pt to ropat53.
21. Make: Leyland. Model: Liion. Where operated: Australia.  1 point to pguillem
22. Make: Maudslay. Model: Marathon III bodied by Whitson. Operator: Wems. Date: 1950. 1 point to Craig Gillingham.
23. Maker: Motor Traction Ltd. Name and model: Rutland Clipper.  1 point to Hiawatha.
24. Make: AEC; model: Regent I; Bodybuilder: Weymann; operated by: Sheffield Corporation; date: 1935.  1 point to frederick59.
25. Make: Skoda. Model: S-532 prototype. Date: 1938.  1 point to Wendax.
26. Make: Commer. Model: Avenger. Bodybuilder: Harrington. Operator: GPO. Original purpose: Mobile Communications vehicle. 1 point to ropat53.
27. Make: AEC trolleybus. Where operated: Sydney, Australia. 1 point to Wendax.
28. Make: AEC; Model: Regent V; Date: 1959; Where operator located: Teheran. 1 point for frederick59.
29. Where operated: Bangkok, Thailand. (It's a Mercedes-Benz double-decker). 1 point to Wendax.
30. Make: Troliga. Model: Sirius. Where operated: Slovakia.  1 point to pguillem.
31. Make: Guy. Where operated: Wolverhampton.  1 point to pguillem.
32. Make: Yellow Coach. Model: Columbia Coach Works Nite Coach modified for film "Sullivan's Travels". 1 pt to targehediferro.
33. Designer: Norman Bel Geddes (in 1932). Where it’s going to: San Francisco.  1 point to Zerk.
34. Make: Versare. Year: 1926/7.  Gas-electric hybrid bus.  1 point to ropat53.
35. Make: Fageol. Year: 1926. Operator: San Francisco City Transport.  1 point to Craig Gillingham.
36. Make: Yellow Coach. Year: 1934. Operator: Los Angeles Motor Coach Lines. 1 pint to targhediferro.

Points awarded:

pguillem:            7 points
ropat53:             7 points
Hiawatha:           6 points
Wendax:             6 points
Craig Gillingham:  4 points
frederick59:          2 points
targhediferro:        2 points
Zerk:                   1 point
Tom_I:                1 point
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Re: Bus Puzzle No. 5
« Reply #4 on: August 12, 2013, 04:57:15 AM »
It seems there are no closet bus enthusiasts amongst the Rookies so let's see what the Experts can make of them.
Please make sure you are familiar with the rules before posting!
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Re: Bus Puzzle No. 5
« Reply #5 on: August 12, 2013, 05:20:59 AM »
I'll start with number 1 and 2
1) 1934 Foden, Burlingham body, Ebor Bus Company in Mansfield
2) 1929 Crossley Arrow, operating in Manchester in 1937 celebrating King George VI Coronation
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Re: Bus Puzzle No. 5
« Reply #6 on: August 12, 2013, 05:57:02 AM »
That's a good start and the first 2 points have been awarded.
No. 2 is actually a Crossley Six not a Crossley Arrow, but since I only asked for the maker and not the model that doesn't matter.  It was indeed a Manchester bus originally and was decorated for the coronation of King George VI and Queen Elizabeth (the present Queen's parents).  Below is the bus in all its glory:

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Re: Bus Puzzle No. 5
« Reply #7 on: August 12, 2013, 09:22:48 AM »
N°24 AEC Regent 1 Sheffield Corporation body weymann 1935
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Re: Bus Puzzle No. 5
« Reply #8 on: August 12, 2013, 10:20:44 AM »
Quote from: frederick59 on August 12, 2013, 09:22:48 AM
N°24 AEC Regent 1 Sheffield Corporation body weymann 1935

Indeed it is!
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Re: Bus Puzzle No. 5
« Reply #9 on: August 12, 2013, 02:22:21 PM »
N° 19 - Eight Wheel Motor Vehicle Company patent originally filed by Rollie B. Fageol, brother of the founders of the Fageol truck and bus company. Possibly a school bus in San Francisco.
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Re: Bus Puzzle No. 5
« Reply #10 on: August 12, 2013, 02:44:54 PM »
Quote from: ropat53 on August 12, 2013, 02:22:21 PM
N° 19 - Eight Wheel Motor Vehicle Company patent originally filed by Rollie B. Fageol, brother of the founders of the Fageol truck and bus company. Possibly a school bus in San Francisco.

That's what I have too.
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Re: Bus Puzzle No. 5
« Reply #11 on: August 12, 2013, 03:05:25 PM »
N° 34 - 1927 Versare. Gas-electric hybrid bus made by the Versare Company. In 1934 the "Atwater Avenue Monster" broke in half.
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Re: Bus Puzzle No. 5
« Reply #12 on: August 12, 2013, 05:20:16 PM »
No 28 - the Yutong "City Master" from circa 2010.  A retro copy of an AEC Routemaster by Yutong, China for use in Skopje, Macedonia
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Re: Bus Puzzle No. 5
« Reply #13 on: August 12, 2013, 06:24:04 PM »
Quote from: ropat53 on August 12, 2013, 03:05:25 PM
N° 34 - 1927 Versare. Gas-electric hybrid bus made by the Versare Company. In 1934 the "Atwater Avenue Monster" broke in half.

That's it, although I had it as from 1926.. Near enough!

Quote from: D-type on August 12, 2013, 05:20:16 PM
No 28 - the Yutong "City Master" from circa 2010.  A retro copy of an AEC Routemaster by Yutong, China for use in Skopje, Macedonia

No. 28 is not that, no.
Maybe you meant no. 30 for that answer, but that wouldn't be right either; I have a feeling the Yutong City Master was featured in my Bus Puzzle No. 4
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Re: Bus Puzzle No. 5
« Reply #14 on: August 12, 2013, 06:32:13 PM »
I can't answer any more?
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Re: Bus Puzzle No. 5
« Reply #15 on: August 12, 2013, 06:48:36 PM »
Quote from: ropat53 on August 12, 2013, 06:32:13 PM
I can't answer any more?

Not for the moment, no.
With my last puzzle I waited until a few of the regular bus-identifiers had had the chance to name a couple and get some points but then changed the rules, when replies had stopped coming in, to allow more points per puzzler.  I like the points to be spread if possible otherwise you can get one bus fanatic scoring 30 or 40 points from just this one puzzle!

It helps those in time-zones some hours behind Europe too, otherwise they log on and find all the answers they knew already taken..  This way they have the same chance as anyone.
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Re: Bus Puzzle No. 5
« Reply #16 on: August 13, 2013, 06:57:23 PM »
Number 33 is a bus designed by architect/industrial designer Norman Bel Geddes. The original illustration shows the destination signboard as San Francisco.
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Re: Bus Puzzle No. 5
« Reply #17 on: August 14, 2013, 04:34:10 AM »
Quote from: Zerk on August 13, 2013, 06:57:23 PM
Number 33 is a bus designed by architect/industrial designer Norman Bel Geddes. The original illustration shows the destination signboard as San Francisco.

Correct!
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Re: Bus Puzzle No. 5
« Reply #18 on: August 14, 2013, 07:33:17 PM »
No.22 is a bit of a guess, -a 1950 Maudslay Marathon III operated by WEMS Coaches of Weston-super-Mare. The coachwork is by Whitson?
No.35 is a Fageol, built in about 1924. The Flickr photo I found of this bus has these details attached to the photo "Fageol City Transit Bus, San Francisco, California"
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Re: Bus Puzzle No. 5
« Reply #19 on: August 15, 2013, 04:13:35 AM »
Quote from: Craig Gillingham on August 14, 2013, 07:33:17 PM
No.22 is a bit of a guess, -a 1950 Maudslay Marathon III operated by WEMS Coaches of Weston-super-Mare. The coachwork is by Whitson?
No.35 is a Fageol, built in about 1924. The Flickr photo I found of this bus has these details attached to the photo "Fageol City Transit Bus, San Francisco, California"

Clearly educated guesses because they are both right, although you were just a little out with the Fageol's year.
I didn't actually ask for the coachbuilder of 22 but you are right - it is a classic Whitson Observation Coach design, as modelled by Dinky Toys!
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Re: Bus Puzzle No. 5
« Reply #20 on: August 16, 2013, 07:10:43 PM »
N°5 AEC Regent 5 1959
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Re: Bus Puzzle No. 5
« Reply #21 on: August 16, 2013, 07:19:16 PM »
Quote from: frederick59 on August 16, 2013, 07:10:43 PM
N°5 AEC Regent 5 1959

I think perhaps you mean No. 6?
If so you'll have to give all the answers for the point!
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Re: Bus Puzzle No. 5
« Reply #22 on: August 16, 2013, 07:34:22 PM »
sorry i meant n°28 :-\
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Re: Bus Puzzle No. 5
« Reply #23 on: August 17, 2013, 07:46:24 AM »
Quote from: frederick59 on August 16, 2013, 07:34:22 PM
sorry i meant n°28 :-\

Ah, I wondered why you were so far out with the date..

It is an AEC Regent V from 1959, yes, so I'll lock it for you to answer the remaining part of that question.
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Re: Bus Puzzle No. 5
« Reply #24 on: August 17, 2013, 12:13:52 PM »
found that it was in Teheran
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