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Re: Back To The Egg
« Reply #50 on: November 10, 2012, 06:08:35 AM »
6: Brutsch mopeta
Correct the typo and the point is yours.  ;)

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Re: Back To The Egg
« Reply #51 on: November 10, 2012, 02:47:14 PM »
Egg 22: FRANCE JET 1100 built by Lofstrand in Rockvlle USA in 1961. Based in the original french FRANCE JET presented in 1959 in the New York Auto Show (see Egg 31 already solved) but using an american 4 cylinder from Koler.

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Re: Back To The Egg
« Reply #52 on: November 10, 2012, 03:22:48 PM »
Egg 22: FRANCE JET 1100 built by Lofstrand in Rockvlle USA in 1961. Based in the original french FRANCE JET presented in 1959 in the New York Auto Show (see Egg 31 already solved) but using an american 4 cylinder from Koler.
Yes, this is the American-built France Jet with a 1100 cc Kohler engine, since the original engine was too small for the US market. Just one prototype built.
We had that one before: http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=6438.0
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Re: Back To The Egg
« Reply #53 on: November 11, 2012, 02:53:34 PM »
Egg 34 FRANCE JET 175 first of the cars, made by Air Tourist, using that name. Presented in 1958 with an 175 c.c. engine. As any success was achieved by that model, later was developed to larger engines and bodies.

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Re: Back To The Egg
« Reply #54 on: November 11, 2012, 04:08:10 PM »
Egg 34 FRANCE JET 175 first of the cars, made by Air Tourist, using that name. Presented in 1958 with an 175 c.c. engine. As any success was achieved by that model, later was developed to larger engines and bodies.
Yes, right again. The Jet 175 was based on the Brütsch V2N. It was probably a one-off.
This one could be seen here before, too: http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=13940.0
« Last Edit: November 11, 2012, 04:18:51 PM by Wendax »

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Re: Back To The Egg
« Reply #55 on: November 11, 2012, 04:48:29 PM »

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Re: Back To The Egg
« Reply #56 on: November 11, 2012, 05:04:09 PM »
6: Brutsch mopeta
Correct the typo and the point is yours.  ;)
Mopetta
Yes, #6 is the Brütsch Mopetta from 1956. Pictured is the Luxusausführung.
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Re: Back To The Egg
« Reply #57 on: November 12, 2012, 02:22:07 AM »
6: Brutsch mopeta
Correct the typo and the point is yours.  ;)
Mopetta
Yes, #6 is the Brütsch Mopetta from 1956. Pictured is the Luxusausführung.

And what time I can find a new egg?

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Re: Back To The Egg
« Reply #58 on: November 12, 2012, 02:32:33 AM »
24 hours after your last post

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Re: Back To The Egg
« Reply #59 on: November 12, 2012, 02:55:33 PM »
Egg 19: BRÜTSCH V2-N last attempt of Egon Brütsch to made a microcar in 1958. In the brochure says  250 c.c. Volks-Zweistzer NGO due to the investment of a Indonesian businessman with that name. As you mentioned in the answer to m post of Egg 22 that design was used to develop some France Jet models.

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Re: Back To The Egg
« Reply #60 on: November 12, 2012, 03:17:25 PM »
Egg 19: BRÜTSCH V2-N last attempt of Egon Brütsch to made a microcar in 1958. In the brochure says  250 c.c. Volks-Zweistzer NGO due to the investment of a Indonesian businessman with that name. As you mentioned in the answer to m post of Egg 22 that design was used to develop some France Jet models.
Yes, another point for you.
An interesting detail is the number and type of doors. Below you can see pictures of a Brütsch V2N with one left door opening backwards, the Brütsch V2N rendering with (one or two) doors opening forward like the two-door France Jet, and a Union Industrielle Jet V2N without doors (Bellu shows a picture of the doorless left side).

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Re: Back To The Egg
« Reply #61 on: November 12, 2012, 04:50:05 PM »
26 is brutsch 400 i think
Yes, but one letter missing to describe this body version: Brütsch _ 400. Any idea?

I hope you mean the word Cabrio-Limousine. It was made by Wendler

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Re: Back To The Egg
« Reply #62 on: November 12, 2012, 04:53:27 PM »
26 is brutsch 400 i think
Yes, but one letter missing to describe this body version: Brütsch _ 400. Any idea?

I hope you mean the word Cabrio-Limousine. It was made by Wendler
No, I'm not looking for a word, but a single letter (A, B, C, ...). Combine that with your guess and you are close to the solution.  ;)

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Re: Back To The Egg
« Reply #63 on: November 13, 2012, 02:50:43 AM »
I think I could keep luisps and some other experts busy for some weeks, but let's increase the speed and move it to the top.

Pros, please make yourself familiar with the rules of this puzzle.
In order to prevent that some microcar buff like me grabs all points at once, you can only have a guess at one car at a time. After your post you have to wait for 24 hours before you can guess on another car.

As some of these cars are of the "It is either this or that" type, there will be no locks.

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Re: Back To The Egg
« Reply #64 on: November 13, 2012, 04:02:46 AM »
#18 :Brutsch Pfeil ?

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Re: Back To The Egg
« Reply #65 on: November 13, 2012, 04:14:58 AM »
#18 :Brutsch Pfeil ?
Yes, it is the Brütsch Pfeil, predecessor of the V2N.

Here's another picture serving the "People standing on cars" theme:
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Re: Back To The Egg
« Reply #66 on: November 13, 2012, 04:57:08 AM »
#23: NSU Powered 125cc

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Re: Back To The Egg
« Reply #67 on: November 13, 2012, 05:00:37 AM »
#23: NSU Powered 125cc
We had that already established.
Egg 23: BRÜTSCH  T MODELL, first car built by Egon Brütsch with a single seat presented in 1950 with a 175 c.c. engine from NSU latter were installed Bker & Polling 250 c.c. engines.
Now that's where things get complicated. You are right that it is the first of the Brütsch microcars (He built racecars and children's cars before). It started with a NSU engine (125 cc I think) and was later on equipped with a Baker  & Pölling engine. I found several names applied to this car, but going by reliability of the source I tend to say that this car was not the T, that was a later model of similar layout. I would say that it was called something else, also a one-letter type name.
Now you have 24 hours of time to find the missing letter. ;)

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Re: Back To The Egg
« Reply #68 on: November 13, 2012, 05:04:52 AM »
Sorry, I read just the 1st page with the answers...

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Re: Back To The Egg
« Reply #69 on: November 13, 2012, 06:11:57 AM »
#11 ~ Brütsch Bussard

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Re: Back To The Egg
« Reply #70 on: November 13, 2012, 06:15:53 AM »
#8 - 1953 Brütsch Eremit Cabriolet by Wendler.

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Re: Back To The Egg
« Reply #71 on: November 13, 2012, 06:29:00 AM »
I think Egg 5 is the Brütsch Zwerg Einsitzer, 1955-56, a single-seater Zwerg (dwarf) with a 74 cc engine as used in the DKW Hobby scooter.

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Re: Back To The Egg
« Reply #72 on: November 13, 2012, 06:31:26 AM »
#11 ~ Brütsch Bussard
Yes.

The Brütsch Bussard and its four-wheeled version Brütsch Pfeil can be seen here side by side:
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Re: Back To The Egg
« Reply #73 on: November 13, 2012, 06:38:56 AM »
#8 - 1953 Brütsch Eremit Cabriolet by Wendler.
Yes, this car first went by the name of Typ T, later on as Eremit. It looks similar to the 400, but is a single-seater.
We had it her before: http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=14833.0
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Re: Back To The Egg
« Reply #74 on: November 13, 2012, 06:46:32 AM »
I think Egg 5 is the Brütsch Zwerg Einsitzer, 1955-56, a single-seater Zwerg (dwarf) with a 74 cc engine as used in the DKW Hobby scooter.
Correct.
We had the Brütsch Zwerg Einsitzer before, but inprecisely identified as Brütsch Zwerg: http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=1565.0
One Zwerg Einsitzer has recently been restored and was shown at Villa d'Este this year.
« Last Edit: November 13, 2012, 01:08:33 PM by Wendax »