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Re: Back To The Egg
« Reply #25 on: November 05, 2012, 01:48:27 PM »
Egg 31: Display at the 1960 New York Auto Show.  Plate on car indicated it was a "France Jet".   Closely resembles Brutsch Jet V2N.  The "France Jet" was likely built by Ngo or Union Industrielle in 1959.
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Re: Back To The Egg
« Reply #26 on: November 05, 2012, 02:02:14 PM »
Yes, this is the France Jet that was displayed at the 1960 New York Auto Show. More or less a Brütsch V2N with two doors. It was built under licence in France by Union Industrielle, a company led by Vantung Ngo, a Vietnamese living in France. The "N" in V2N stood for Ngo.

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Re: Back To The Egg
« Reply #27 on: November 05, 2012, 02:30:33 PM »
Egg 21: SUPER JET. Very low quality picture in an advertisement appeared in the newspaper La Vanguardia of Barcelona the 2/9/1959 selling the production license of that car. In reality was the FRANCE JET with engine of 280 c.c. the seller was Union Industrielle of Nogent-sur-Marne (France). Supodselly this company was the successor of Air Tourist.
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Re: Back To The Egg
« Reply #28 on: November 05, 2012, 02:48:22 PM »
Yes, an unsuccessful attempt to sell the France Jet licence and the production tools in Spain.

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Re: Back To The Egg
« Reply #29 on: November 06, 2012, 12:38:07 AM »
Number 28: Spatz 200 von Spatz Fahrzeugbau Harald Friedrich Traunreut/OBB
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Re: Back To The Egg
« Reply #30 on: November 06, 2012, 02:33:43 AM »
Quote from: Facel on November 06, 2012, 12:38:07 AM
Number 28: Spatz 200 von Spatz Fahrzeugbau Harald Friedrich Traunreut/OBB
Yes, but one (obvious) detail is missing in the description.
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Re: Back To The Egg
« Reply #31 on: November 06, 2012, 02:30:59 PM »
Egg 17: BURFALKE FB 250 EXPORT. Last attempt to prolong the life of the original design of the Brütsch Spatz trying to be exported to USA.
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Re: Back To The Egg
« Reply #32 on: November 06, 2012, 03:50:13 PM »
I'll accept that in spite of the little typo.  ;)
It is a Burgfalke FB 250 Export. Burgfalke bought the production tools and spare bodies in 1959 after Victoria had stopped production one year ago. The Burgfalke should have had two doors, but they only completed some spare Victoria bodies. We had the Burgfalke before (with a not very precise description): http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=3257.0
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Re: Back To The Egg
« Reply #33 on: November 06, 2012, 04:18:22 PM »
A slightly modified Victoria brochure served as the first Burgfalke brochure, and the Burgfalke emblem:
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Re: Back To The Egg
« Reply #34 on: November 06, 2012, 05:37:01 PM »
Quote from: Wendax on November 06, 2012, 02:33:43 AM
Quote from: Facel on November 06, 2012, 12:38:07 AM
Number 28: Spatz 200 von Spatz Fahrzeugbau Harald Friedrich Traunreut/OBB
Yes, but one (obvious) detail is missing in the description.

I hope you mean the word "Coupe"
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Re: Back To The Egg
« Reply #35 on: November 07, 2012, 02:58:31 AM »
Quote from: Facel on November 06, 2012, 05:37:01 PM
Quote from: Wendax on November 06, 2012, 02:33:43 AM
Quote from: Facel on November 06, 2012, 12:38:07 AM
Number 28: Spatz 200 von Spatz Fahrzeugbau Harald Friedrich Traunreut/OBB
Yes, but one (obvious) detail is missing in the description.
I hope you mean the word "Coupe"
Yes ;)
The Spatz 200 Coupé was pictured on a brochure published by Spatz Fahrzeugbau Harald Friedrich from Traunreut. That company was founded in 1955, originally to build the Brütsch 200 Spatz under licence. But Friedrich soon discovered that the Brütsch car was a faulty construction, and decided to hire Hans Ledwinka of Tatra fame in order to reconstruct the car. A tubular frame was added to the roadster as well as a fourth wheel. I don't know how many of these roadster-based coupes were built.
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Re: Back To The Egg
« Reply #36 on: November 07, 2012, 02:33:46 PM »
Egg 23: BRÜTSCH  T MODELL, first car built by Egon Brütsch with a single seat presented in 1950 with a 175 c.c. engine from NSU latter were installed Bker & Polling 250 c.c. engines.
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Re: Back To The Egg
« Reply #37 on: November 08, 2012, 05:50:25 AM »
Quote from: luisps on November 07, 2012, 02:33:46 PM
Egg 23: BRÜTSCH  T MODELL, first car built by Egon Brütsch with a single seat presented in 1950 with a 175 c.c. engine from NSU latter were installed Bker & Polling 250 c.c. engines.
Now that's where things get complicated. You are right that it is the first of the Brütsch microcars (He built racecars and children's cars before). It started with a NSU engine (125 cc I think) and was later on equipped with a Baker  & Pölling engine. I found several names applied to this car, but going by reliability of the source I tend to say that this car was not the T, that was a later model of similar layout. I would say that it was called something else, also a one-letter type name.
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Re: Back To The Egg
« Reply #38 on: November 08, 2012, 02:40:25 PM »
Egg 9 BRÜTSCH 200 SPATZ COUPE. prototype unique with a folding roof that swings upwad including the doors. was too heavy for the small engine nd the project was deleted.
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Re: Back To The Egg
« Reply #39 on: November 08, 2012, 02:55:03 PM »
Quote from: luisps on November 08, 2012, 02:40:25 PM
Egg 9 BRÜTSCH 200 SPATZ COUPE. prototype unique with a folding roof that swings upwad including the doors. was too heavy for the small engine nd the project was deleted.
Yes, that's it. It was not a folding roof, but a right-hand folding gullwing door, like at the Trippel SK-10 (http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=2769.0).
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Re: Back To The Egg
« Reply #40 on: November 08, 2012, 03:29:18 PM »
Fascinating puzzle  :thumbsup:
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Re: Back To The Egg
« Reply #41 on: November 08, 2012, 03:44:11 PM »
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on November 08, 2012, 03:29:18 PM
Fascinating puzzle  :thumbsup:
Thanks! I had my share of fun sorting out all the possible puzzle cars.  ;D
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Re: Back To The Egg
« Reply #42 on: November 08, 2012, 03:49:55 PM »
26 is brutsch 400 i think
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Re: Back To The Egg
« Reply #43 on: November 08, 2012, 03:52:43 PM »
Quote from: Facel on November 08, 2012, 03:49:55 PM
26 is brutsch 400 i think
Yes, but one letter missing to describe this body version: Brütsch _ 400. Any idea?
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Re: Back To The Egg
« Reply #44 on: November 09, 2012, 09:59:47 AM »
egg1 - BAG SPATZ?
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Re: Back To The Egg
« Reply #45 on: November 09, 2012, 11:47:11 AM »
Quote from: Julien1A on November 09, 2012, 09:59:47 AM
egg1 - BAG SPATZ?
Yes, that is the Spatz roadster, presented in 1955 by Spatz Fahrzeugbau Harald Friedrich. In 1956 he joined up with Victoria in order to sell his Spatz through the Victoria dealership. So the Bayrische Autowerke GmbH (BAG) was founded, sometimes also abbreviated as BAW.
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Re: Back To The Egg
« Reply #46 on: November 09, 2012, 02:43:33 PM »
Egg 27: SPRINT failed attempt of  Mr. Max Schär to produce the initial  Brutsch Spatz threewheeler in Switzerland.
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Re: Back To The Egg
« Reply #47 on: November 09, 2012, 02:53:28 PM »
Very good. That one was new even to me when I gathered the pictures for this puzzle. It is doubtful whether any Sprint were built.
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Re: Back To The Egg
« Reply #48 on: November 10, 2012, 03:12:41 AM »
no, no idea what you mean
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Re: Back To The Egg
« Reply #49 on: November 10, 2012, 03:13:41 AM »
6: Brutsch mopeta
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