Author Topic: SAC#589 : Renault 4cv drive by Ziri Haim at the 1955 Morocco Grand Prix of Agadir  (Read 1017 times)

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Re: SAC#589
« Reply #25 on: December 10, 2013, 04:51:00 PM »
Is it a South African (the non-European part) built car powered by a Fiat engine (the European part)?
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Re: SAC#589
« Reply #26 on: December 11, 2013, 01:34:05 AM »
Not  South African and not a Fiat engine !

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Re: SAC#589
« Reply #27 on: December 11, 2013, 05:30:12 PM »
German engine/chassis ?

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Re: SAC#589
« Reply #28 on: December 12, 2013, 01:16:11 AM »
Yes !

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Re: SAC#589
« Reply #29 on: December 12, 2013, 10:48:31 AM »
NSU Prinz?
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Re: SAC#589
« Reply #30 on: December 12, 2013, 12:55:59 PM »
Not NSU !
( I have not much information about the car and I don't know where is the engine !)
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Re: SAC#589
« Reply #31 on: December 12, 2013, 01:37:23 PM »
My next guess was going to be Wartburg, but I suppose you are only looking for the body constructors name?

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Re: SAC#589
« Reply #32 on: December 12, 2013, 03:05:50 PM »
Not Wartburg ! but I know the basis of the car !

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Re: SAC#589
« Reply #33 on: December 12, 2013, 04:09:03 PM »
Africa but not South Africa - Zimbabwe?

German underpinnings - DKW?
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Re: SAC#589
« Reply #34 on: December 13, 2013, 01:47:18 AM »
I have a problem because there are errors in my sources !
I am sure only of the race but maybe you can help me ! ::)
A race in Africa ,but not Zimbabwe !
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Re: SAC#589
« Reply #35 on: December 13, 2013, 04:42:17 AM »
Sorry , but according to my searches it's a Renault ! ;D
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Re: SAC#589 : Locked
« Reply #36 on: December 13, 2013, 10:46:29 AM »
I found the photo I think you got the mystery car from, the caption just says 66 Ziri, but the second photo you posted proved more forthcoming.

Taken on the starting grid of the Sports 1000cc race at the 1955 Morocco Grand Prix of Agadir, it lists the car as 66 Ziri Renault.

The most info I could find ATM looking at other grid listings for the event was that its driver was Ziri Haim, and the car is a Renault 4CV.

Its probably based on a 4CV, but I suspect the body may have been by Barquette Rispal , but I cant prove it ATM.





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Re: SAC#589 : Locked
« Reply #37 on: December 13, 2013, 11:05:35 AM »
Yes ! Renault (4cv ? ) drive by Ziri Haim at the 1955 Morocco Grand Prix of Agadir
the car look like a Panhard by Riffard !
and sorry for my hesitations !
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Thanks Saco! :)

Hopefully some more info on this obscure car can be found in the future.

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Well, I let the right hand drive lead my guesses up the garden path  :doh:

Serves me right for making blind guesses  and not going searching.  :-[
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