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SAC#577 : Packard 120 drop head coupé by Saoutchik
« on: October 18, 2013, 08:47:17 AM »
Please  identify this car, its coachbuilder and the year it was built. :)
« Last Edit: October 28, 2013, 11:37:58 AM by SACO »

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Re: SAC#577
« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2013, 01:58:55 AM »
Experts !

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Re: SAC#577
« Reply #2 on: October 25, 2013, 08:47:15 AM »
Delage D8?

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Re: SAC#577
« Reply #3 on: October 25, 2013, 09:01:11 AM »
Not a Delage D8 !

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Re: SAC#577
« Reply #4 on: October 25, 2013, 09:04:50 AM »
I love that central door handle!

I may be way off, but it looks very much to me like a Ford/Matford and the coachwork reminds me of the work of Franay but I could find nothing so far.  Probably in the 1937/1939 range.

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Re: SAC#577
« Reply #5 on: October 25, 2013, 09:20:34 AM »
I think it's a Packard 120 by Franay with sliding doors perhaps 1937

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Re: SAC#577
« Reply #6 on: October 25, 2013, 10:44:52 AM »
Yes ,it's a Packard 120 ,but not by Franay !
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Re: SAC#577 : Locked
« Reply #7 on: October 25, 2013, 11:08:16 AM »
Darrin

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Re: SAC#577 : Locked
« Reply #8 on: October 25, 2013, 04:55:56 PM »
Not by Darrin !

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Re: SAC#577 : Locked
« Reply #9 on: October 26, 2013, 06:00:47 AM »
Packard 120 drophead coupé by Chapron...   :o

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Re: SAC#577 : Locked
« Reply #10 on: October 26, 2013, 08:34:38 AM »
Not by Chapron !

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Re: SAC#577 : Locked
« Reply #11 on: October 28, 2013, 07:26:19 AM »
Sorry Saco, no possible for me to find...    :(

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Re: SAC#577 : Locked
« Reply #12 on: October 28, 2013, 11:37:49 AM »
Unlocked !

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Re: SAC#577 :
« Reply #13 on: October 28, 2013, 03:48:50 PM »
I have not found just this car, but Letourneur & Marchand were very partial to sliding doors.

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Re: SAC#577 :
« Reply #14 on: October 28, 2013, 05:44:51 PM »
Not Letourneur & Marchand !

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Re: SAC#577 :
« Reply #15 on: October 28, 2013, 05:52:28 PM »
Then, time for a reality check.

Is the coach builder French????????????

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Re: SAC#577 :
« Reply #16 on: November 05, 2013, 01:16:12 AM »
Yes , it's a French coach builder ! :)

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Re: SAC#577 :
« Reply #17 on: November 05, 2013, 11:08:25 AM »
i am pretty sure that it's by Saoutchik

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Re: SAC#577 :
« Reply #18 on: November 05, 2013, 04:26:11 PM »
Yes , Packard 120 drop head coupé by Saoutchik !
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Re: SAC#577 : Packard 120 drop head coupé by Saoutchik
« Reply #19 on: November 05, 2013, 04:42:56 PM »
Do you have a complete or better photo of this Packard?
It would be nice to add to the file.

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Re: SAC#577 : Packard 120 drop head coupé by Saoutchik
« Reply #20 on: November 05, 2013, 07:14:01 PM »
I had found this Franay Packard picture, could it be the same car? :-\

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Re: SAC#577 : Packard 120 drop head coupé by Saoutchik
« Reply #21 on: November 05, 2013, 07:21:56 PM »
I found the same car two days ago, Robbie.

That is why I asked for a better, more complete photo, as I am looking for the complete answer.

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Re: SAC#577 : Packard 120 drop head coupé by Saoutchik
« Reply #22 on: November 06, 2013, 01:53:47 AM »
I have this picture : Salon de Paris 1938

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Re: SAC#577 : Packard 120 drop head coupé by Saoutchik
« Reply #23 on: November 06, 2013, 10:11:51 AM »
Hi Amigos:

You will probably find this hard to believe, but many years ago, I purchased two issues of L'Illustration L'Automobile, one 8 October 1938 and the other 4 October 1941.  When I looked at Saco's two photos, I remembered these magazines and finally found them in a box.

In the 1938 issue, appears Saco's photo and it is a Saoutchik creation.  My French is very bad but there was a small paragraph telling how this was their solution to people needing easier access to the rear seat but who preferred a two door car to a four door for styling reasons.  Another solution was also presented by makers such as Licorne and Bugatti which was the first, apparently, folding drivers and front passengers seats which you could fold out of the way of the rear seat passenger when they entered or left the car.

Very interesting and I will now spend an hour or two going through each magazine slowly page by page.  Even the advertisements are quite fascinating by today's standards.

Bill
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