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SAC#524: 1938 Mille Miglia: Fiat 508CS Balilla Sport
« on: August 01, 2013, 01:41:07 AM »
Sorry for the bad photo !

What's this,where and when ,for 1 point ? :)
« Last Edit: August 08, 2013, 04:52:33 PM by SACO »
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Re: SAC#524
« Reply #1 on: August 07, 2013, 01:23:54 AM »
Experts !
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Re: SAC#524
« Reply #2 on: August 07, 2013, 10:56:49 AM »
Alfa Romeo 8C 2600 Monza
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Re: SAC#524
« Reply #3 on: August 07, 2013, 11:05:06 AM »
In spite of appearances , it's not an Alfa !
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Re: SAC#524
« Reply #4 on: August 07, 2013, 11:06:48 AM »
Italian?
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Re: SAC#524
« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2013, 12:19:11 PM »
Yes !
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Re: SAC#524
« Reply #6 on: August 07, 2013, 12:37:57 PM »
Fiat 1100
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Re: SAC#524
« Reply #7 on: August 07, 2013, 01:54:13 PM »
Yes ,it's a Fiat !
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Re: SAC#524: Locked
« Reply #8 on: August 07, 2013, 06:08:27 PM »
Guessing it was a Fiat seems to have been the easy part.
It is a 1100 racing in Italy?
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Re: SAC#524: Locked
« Reply #9 on: August 08, 2013, 01:21:57 AM »
Yes !
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Re: SAC#524: Locked
« Reply #10 on: August 08, 2013, 04:52:10 PM »
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Re: SAC#524:
« Reply #11 on: August 17, 2013, 01:34:30 AM »
Pros !
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Re: SAC#524:
« Reply #12 on: August 17, 2013, 05:53:12 AM »
Bit of a long shot - is this the 1940 Tobruk-Tripoli race ?
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Re: SAC#524:
« Reply #13 on: August 17, 2013, 08:44:17 AM »
Not 1940 Tobruk-Tripoli race !
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Re: SAC#524:
« Reply #14 on: August 17, 2013, 09:46:19 AM »
Quote from: SACO on August 17, 2013, 08:44:17 AM
Not 1940 Tobruk-Tripoli race !


I've just realised that a previous post mentioned that the race was in Italy. I must open my eyes a bit more.

I'm pretty sure it's not the Mille Miglia. Is it the Targa Florio ?
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Re: SAC#524:
« Reply #15 on: August 17, 2013, 10:17:55 AM »
Is it Pulidori?
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Re: SAC#524:
« Reply #16 on: August 17, 2013, 10:31:24 AM »
Why not Mille Miglia ?
Not a Pulidori !
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Re: SAC#524:
« Reply #17 on: August 17, 2013, 10:50:10 AM »
Quote from: SACO on August 17, 2013, 10:31:24 AM
Why not Mille Miglia ?
Not a Pulidori !

That body style with streamlined wheel covers would have been late 30s onwards. I've checked the results of 1936, 37, 38 and 1940 (no race in '39) and nothing fits. Nor does 1947-49, and then the "numbers by starting time" system begins. Most of the events do not have a #44 (is this unlucky in Italy?). Sorry, I can't make it out.

So we're looking for one (or two?) Fiat 1100 sports-racing cars in the Mille Miglia - do you need the driver names ?
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Re: SAC#524:
« Reply #18 on: August 17, 2013, 12:02:33 PM »
The photo comes from a movie about one year of Mille miglia, but the participations don't correspond with the movie
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Re: SAC#524:
« Reply #19 on: August 17, 2013, 12:38:08 PM »
An other view of the movie :
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Re: SAC#524:
« Reply #20 on: August 17, 2013, 05:14:53 PM »
From 1938 Mille Miglia: #30 is a Fiat 508CS Balilla Sport (with a Fiat L4 1100 cc engine), and driven by Quintavalla & S. Bardiani.  It finished 33rd.
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Re: SAC#524:
« Reply #21 on: August 17, 2013, 07:08:09 PM »
According to a certain reputable site, car #44 is a Fiat 1100 berlinetta. That car in the photo sure isn't a berlinetta. Was the film a documentary made during the running of the race, or a fictional account made using some of the runners and some other cars ? The car #44 was the problem for me when trying to solve the puzzle.
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Re: SAC#524:
« Reply #22 on: August 18, 2013, 02:31:39 AM »
The name of the movie is " Mille Miglia Car Race Lner 1938 " ( British Pathé )
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Re: SAC#524:
« Reply #23 on: August 18, 2013, 07:35:27 AM »
Well, for what it's worth, car #44 was a Fiat 1100MM berlinetta driven by Gilera/Giovanni. I have watched the British Pathe film and it does not name the cars in your puzzle. I reckon 4popoid deserves the point for identifying the actual event and one of the cars - I can only assume that the "certain site" that provides reasonably accurate records of these races was wrong on this one, regarding the other car.
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Re: SAC#524:
« Reply #24 on: September 02, 2013, 07:15:09 AM »
Well ! :scratch:
Mille Miglia 1938 ?
#44: Fiat 1100 Zagato ?
#30: Alfa 6C 1750 rebodied ?
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