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Title: SAC#472 :Tatra 57K of Michael Ravel, built by Roland Charriot, 1945
Post by: SACO on May 13, 2013, 01:54:10 AM
Identify this car, for 1 point !  :)
Title: Re: SAC#472
Post by: SACO on May 21, 2013, 01:28:44 AM
Experts ?
Title: Re: SAC#472
Post by: richard cuyler on May 21, 2013, 06:25:18 AM
Peugeot 202-based racer?

Dangerous steering geometry there - a front tyre blowout would have you off the road in an instant! :o
Title: Re: SAC#472
Post by: SACO on May 21, 2013, 09:22:34 AM
Not Peugeot 202-based racer !
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Post by: nicanary on May 21, 2013, 01:58:32 PM
How on earth would you get two people in there ?

Italian ?
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Post by: SACO on May 22, 2013, 01:25:19 AM
Not Italian !
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Post by: nicanary on May 22, 2013, 09:42:38 AM
Is it French though ?
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Post by: SACO on May 22, 2013, 11:02:51 AM
Not French !
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Post by: nicanary on May 23, 2013, 06:26:00 AM
German ?
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Post by: SACO on May 23, 2013, 07:35:34 AM
Not German !
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Post by: nicanary on May 23, 2013, 08:08:26 AM
Czech ?
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Post by: SACO on May 23, 2013, 09:50:17 AM
Yes !
Locked for nicanary !
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Post by: nicanary on May 23, 2013, 10:38:20 AM
The twin transverse leaf springs remind me of an Aero Minor. Is it ?
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Post by: SACO on May 23, 2013, 12:05:47 PM
Not Aero Minor !
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Post by: SACO on June 11, 2013, 01:44:34 AM
Pros ?
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Post by: Carnut on June 12, 2013, 04:51:11 AM
Does it have a Jawa engine?
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Post by: SACO on June 12, 2013, 07:21:22 AM
Not Jawa engine !
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Post by: Wendax on June 12, 2013, 07:36:39 AM
CZ engine?
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Post by: Carnut on June 12, 2013, 09:32:34 AM
Or maybe it's Wartburg-powered?
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Post by: SACO on June 12, 2013, 10:59:54 AM
Not CZ and not Wartburg !
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Post by: Carnut on June 12, 2013, 11:24:22 AM
Citroen power?
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Post by: pnegyesi on June 12, 2013, 01:18:07 PM
It looks like the Mono JK which was powered by a VW Kdf engine
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Post by: SACO on June 12, 2013, 02:12:14 PM
Not Citroen and not JK !
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Post by: pnegyesi on June 12, 2013, 03:07:22 PM
BMW 750 motorcycle engine?
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Post by: Allemano on June 12, 2013, 03:51:28 PM

Quote from: SACO on June 12, 2013, 10:59:54 AM
Not CZ and not Wartburg !
:scratch: Are you sure? I have it as Tatra 57 K.
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Post by: SACO on June 12, 2013, 05:06:20 PM
Yes ,Tatra 57K of Michael Ravel 1949 ( With a car stayed in France after the war )
1 point for Allemano  :)
Title: Re: SAC#472 :Tatra 57K of Michael Ravel 1949
Post by: pnegyesi on June 13, 2013, 12:33:48 AM
SACO, may I ask you to be more precise when replying? This is not the first time, that your answers are misleading. Nicanary asked you whether this car was French. You said no. Well, this car was built in France from Czech parts. It is great that Allemano knew this car, so he was able to identify it, but otherwise we had no chance of finding this.
Please don't get me wrong. I really enjoy your puzzles, these are great cars. But without proper answers we are just wandering aimlessly. Thank you
Title: Re: SAC#472 :Tatra 57K of Michael Ravel 1949
Post by: SACO on June 13, 2013, 03:59:05 AM
OK !
Title: PN #790 -- Tatra 57K special by Roland Charriot, 1945 owned by Michael Ravel
Post by: pnegyesi on August 16, 2015, 10:21:49 AM
Please identify this car for a point
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Post by: pnegyesi on August 30, 2015, 09:56:42 AM
Experts?
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Post by: GV CREATIONS on September 04, 2015, 03:43:27 PM
Tatra Charriot Speciale.
This car was made by Mr. Roland Charriot based on a Tatra Type 57K of Wermarth.
In February 1945, he bought a burned wreckage from the fields and begins to transform in order to participate in local events. This retains the general architecture, namely the beam frame and the original engine by adapting any of the other pieces sources, including Citroen.
The work on the chassis and mechanical components will be spread over the years 1947 and 1948. Roland Charriot inspired methods (riveting) and materials used in aeronautics (aluminum) to carry the cross, pierced in order lighten up the fireball, the firewall, or the dashboard.
Between February and April 1948, the first frame of the testing is done in Meaux and car, provided with its body, is received by the mines department August 5, 1948.
Roland Charriot retain its creation throughout his life. At his death, his grand-son inherits.
Engine: 4-cylinder boxer, air cooled.
Displacement: 1160 cc.
Original Power: 22cv

 ;)

French version :

Tatra Charriot Speciale.
Cette voiture a été réalisée par monsieur Roland Charriot sur la base d’une Tatra type 57K de la Wermarth.
En février 1945, il achète une épave brulée en provenance des domaines et commence à la transformer dans le but de participer à des épreuves locales. Il en conserve l’architecture générale, à savoir le châssis poutre ainsi que le moteur d’origine tout en y adaptant des pièces d’autres provenances, Citroën notamment.
Le travail sur le châssis et les éléments mécaniques va s’étaler sur les années 1947 et 1948. Roland Charriot s’inspire des méthodes (rivetage) et des matériaux utilisés dans l’aéronautique ‘aluminium) pour réaliser les traverses, ajourées dans le but d’alléger au maximum le bolide, la cloison pare-feu, ou encore le tableau de bord.
Entre février et avril 1948, les premiers essais du châssis sont effectués à Meaux et la voiture, pourvue de sa carrosserie, est réceptionnée par le service des mines le 5 août 1948.
Roland Charriot conservera sa création toute sa vie. A son décès, son petit-fils en hérite.
Moteur : 4 cylindres à plat, refroidissement par air.
Cylindrée : 1160 cm³.
Puissance d’origine : 22cv
Title: Re: PN #790
Post by: pnegyesi on September 05, 2015, 12:00:05 AM
Perfect!
Title: Re: Solved: PN #790 -- Tatra 57K special by Roland Charriot, 1945
Post by: Paul Jaray on September 06, 2015, 11:39:18 AM
http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=24785.0
 ;)
Title: Re: Solved: PN #790 -- Tatra 57K special by Roland Charriot, 1945
Post by: pnegyesi on September 06, 2015, 12:17:35 PM
So it's a repost after all, though the original ID is wrong. I will merge these two soon