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Peter Heitmann VW Special, 1958 one-off conversion
« on: August 18, 2012, 04:36:51 PM »
Who knows this car?

I have a name and a year.
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Re: grob VW Special #03 out of 10 / 2012.08.18
« Reply #1 on: September 25, 2012, 11:55:51 AM »
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Re: grob VW Special #03 out of 10 / 2012.08.18
« Reply #2 on: September 25, 2012, 01:01:34 PM »
1959 VW Special Coupe by Beutler?

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Re: grob VW Special #03 out of 10 / 2012.08.18
« Reply #3 on: September 25, 2012, 02:03:56 PM »
The year is almost correct, but it is a one-off and not made by Beutler or in Switzerland.

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Re: grob VW Special #03 out of 10 / 2012.08.18
« Reply #4 on: October 07, 2012, 02:13:57 PM »
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Re: grob VW Special #03 out of 10 / 2012.08.18
« Reply #5 on: October 07, 2012, 03:05:54 PM »
Another car from KFBS K'lautern?

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Re: grob VW Special #03 out of 10 / 2012.08.18
« Reply #6 on: October 07, 2012, 03:10:23 PM »
Definitly not.

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Re: grob VW Special #03 out of 10 / 2012.08.18
« Reply #7 on: October 07, 2012, 03:17:27 PM »
Well, the overall shape and the building quality certainly looks like one of these built in K'lautern. Especially the trim work just reminded me of the one on the pic.

But if you say it's not I'll have to accept that.  ;)
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Re: grob VW Special #03 out of 10 / 2012.08.18
« Reply #8 on: October 08, 2012, 04:22:51 AM »
Was it built in Hanover?
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Re: grob VW Special #03 out of 10 / 2012.08.18
« Reply #9 on: October 08, 2012, 12:22:18 PM »
Yes!
Locked for you!

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Re: grob VW Special #03 out of 10 / 2012.08.18
« Reply #10 on: October 10, 2012, 05:32:24 AM »
Yes!
Locked for you!

Thanks, but despite having Googled endlessly using every keyword I can imagine in both English and German I've coming up with nothing whatsoever for this car.  I only guessed Hanover because of the Hanover registration of the car, not because I knew anything about it other than it's a VW Eigenbau from Hanover!

So you can unlock it and we'll see who knows what; I'll continue to search but I can't think of any other words I could use or order I could place them in.  That name on the front looks like 'Maltier' or 'Hartier' or something like that but I've tried every sensible combination of likely letters and again still come up with nothing.  I'm looking forward to seeing the answer!
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Re: LOCKED for Carnut: grob VW Special #03 out of 10 / 2012.08.18
« Reply #11 on: October 10, 2012, 04:18:50 PM »
O.K., let´s see who´ll make it...

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Re: grob VW Special #03 out of 10 / 2012.08.18
« Reply #12 on: October 10, 2012, 04:56:39 PM »
To me it looks like the name on the boot lid ends with NIA

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Re: grob VW Special #03 out of 10 / 2012.08.18
« Reply #13 on: October 10, 2012, 05:42:11 PM »
The builder´s name is different from the name on the hood.

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Re: grob VW Special #03 out of 10 / 2012.08.18
« Reply #14 on: January 08, 2013, 01:56:43 PM »
To the black hole...

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Re: grob VW Special #03 out of 10 / 2012.08.18
« Reply #15 on: April 10, 2013, 01:21:01 PM »
I want this to be solved...

So here are some more facts about it:

- self-built by a 21 year old engineer.
- VW chassis
- Weight of the body: 115 kg
- Total weight: 625 kg
- 30 HP, top speed 130 km/h.
- Length: 3,96m
- Width 1,56m
- Height 1,24m

The builder has tried to sell it to the USA.

Here´s another 1959 photo and some more information:

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Re: grob VW Special #03 out of 10 / 2012.08.18
« Reply #16 on: August 16, 2013, 02:14:45 PM »
I wan´t this to be solved.

So a biig hint:

There once was an infamous candidate for The President of the Federal Republic of Germany (German: Bundespräsident), which is the head of state of Germany, who shared the same name with the builder of this car...

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Re: grob VW Special #03 out of 10 / 2012.08.18
« Reply #17 on: August 16, 2013, 02:24:08 PM »
Jens Reich?
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Re: grob VW Special #03 out of 10 / 2012.08.18
« Reply #18 on: August 16, 2013, 02:45:22 PM »
No. But you´re very very close!

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Re: grob VW Special #03 out of 10 / 2012.08.18
« Reply #19 on: August 16, 2013, 02:49:00 PM »
Frank Rennicke?  :yuck:

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Re: grob VW Special #03 out of 10 / 2012.08.18
« Reply #20 on: August 16, 2013, 02:51:49 PM »
Quote
:yuck:

 ;D

Close in the sense of time, not alphabetically...

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Re: grob VW Special #03 out of 10 / 2012.08.18
« Reply #21 on: August 16, 2013, 02:53:51 PM »
Hans Hirzel?

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Re: grob VW Special #03 out of 10 / 2012.08.18
« Reply #22 on: August 16, 2013, 03:08:30 PM »
It was not Jens Reich, but it was the identical political rally...

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Re: grob VW Special #03 out of 10 / 2012.08.18
« Reply #23 on: August 16, 2013, 03:16:50 PM »
Rinser?

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Re: grob VW Special #03 out of 10 / 2012.08.18
« Reply #24 on: August 16, 2013, 03:23:25 PM »
Go for the 1994 rally.

The name does not start with an "R".