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Offline Carnut

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NEH 2816 - Odd One Out - Solved
« on: July 16, 2013, 08:01:51 AM »
10 beautiful Ferraris.
Which one is my Odd One Out and why?
1 point for the correct answers!
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Re: NEH 2816 - Odd One Out
« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2013, 11:36:55 AM »
My guess is picture nr 7 from the top. The Pininfarina 365 Speciale. One off and the only one with 3 seats.
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Re: NEH 2816 - Odd One Out
« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2013, 02:20:19 PM »
Quote from: Lofotleif on July 16, 2013, 11:36:55 AM
My guess is picture nr 7 from the top. The Pininfarina 365 Speciale. One off and the only one with 3 seats.

Those facts may well be true but I'm afraid that's not the answer I'm looking for!
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Re: NEH 2816 - Odd One Out
« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2013, 03:11:35 PM »
Picture  1 then - the only one with a boxer 12 engine - the rest is V12's
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Re: NEH 2816 - Odd One Out
« Reply #4 on: July 16, 2013, 06:49:55 PM »
Quote from: Lofotleif on July 16, 2013, 03:11:35 PM
Picture  1 then - the only one with a boxer 12 engine - the rest is V12's

Factually correct again but I'm afraid No. 1 is not my odd one out either!
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Re: NEH 2816 - Odd One Out
« Reply #5 on: July 17, 2013, 02:15:37 PM »
Quote from: Carnut on July 16, 2013, 08:01:51 AM
10 beautiful Ferraris.
Which one is my Odd One Out and why?
1 point for the correct answers!

Picture No. 5, this is the only 330, all otherīs are 365 ?
Or Picture No. 8, the only 2+2 seater ?
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Re: NEH 2816 - Odd One Out
« Reply #6 on: July 17, 2013, 02:45:28 PM »
Quote from: Gast1234 on July 17, 2013, 02:15:37 PM
[Picture No. 5, this is the only 330, all otherīs are 365 ?
Or Picture No. 8, the only 2+2 seater ?

We only actually allow one question at a time Gast1234, but on this occasion it doesn't matter because you got the right answer first time - they are all Ferrari 365s except No. 5, which is a 330 GTC!  Very impressive; you really need to know your Ferraris to get that one!

For interest this is what No.5 would have looked like if it had been a 365 GTC instead:


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That one has wire wheels, but most 365 GTCs were fitted with light alloys like this one, which generally (but not necessarily) signifies that it is a 365 rather than a 330; whether it has alloy or wire wheels it could be either, the only really obvious external difference being the side vent panels on the 330, which were not there on the 365:

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Well done Gast 1234; that puzzle didn't last nearly as long as I thought it would!
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Re: NEH 2816 - Odd One Out
« Reply #7 on: July 17, 2013, 02:59:02 PM »
Quote from: Carnut on July 16, 2013, 06:49:55 PM
Quote from: Lofotleif on July 16, 2013, 03:11:35 PM
Picture  1 then - the only one with a boxer 12 engine - the rest is V12's

Factually correct again but I'm afraid No. 1 is not my odd one out either!
In fact it is not a boxer engine (despite its name), but a 180-degree V12.  ;)
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Re: NEH 2816 - Odd One Out
« Reply #8 on: July 17, 2013, 06:58:51 PM »
Quote from: Wendax on July 17, 2013, 02:59:02 PM
Quote from: Carnut on July 16, 2013, 06:49:55 PM
Quote from: Lofotleif on July 16, 2013, 03:11:35 PM
Picture  1 then - the only one with a boxer 12 engine - the rest is V12's

Factually correct again but I'm afraid No. 1 is not my odd one out either!
In fact it is not a boxer engine (despite its name), but a 180-degree V12.  ;)

Thanks Wendax.  I'll have to think very hard about why a horizontally-opposed flat 12-cylinder engine is simply a 180 degree V12 rather than a Boxer...  I'm sure you'll be able to enlighten me though!

I have read more than once elsewhere that the Ferrari engine is not a true boxer but simply a flattened V12, but I have to confess in my ignorance I've never fully understood the difference..
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Re: NEH 2816 - Odd One Out - Solved
« Reply #9 on: July 17, 2013, 08:15:47 PM »
In England we usually referred to engines with two banks of cylinders directly opposite each other as "horizontally opposed" or "flat-4 (or -6, -8 or -12)" no matter how the cylinders and crankshaft are related.
In Germany and Italy they were referred to as "boxer" which seems to have caught on. Perhaps the name has some connection with the pairing of cylinders in the two banks to be on paired cranks which are at 180 deg. so the pistons move in opposition. Presumably, if that's the case, the "180 deg. V-12" has pairs of cylinders sharing a crank, therefore moving in phase.
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Re: NEH 2816 - Odd One Out - Solved
« Reply #10 on: July 18, 2013, 12:49:31 AM »
Allan explained it correctly. Below a sketch from wikipedia, the left one being a 180° V-engine, the right one a flat "boxer".
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Re: NEH 2816 - Odd One Out - Solved
« Reply #11 on: July 18, 2013, 04:31:43 AM »
OK, now I understand.
Thanks guys!
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Re: NEH 2816 - Odd One Out - Solved
« Reply #12 on: July 18, 2013, 06:25:58 AM »
Thankīs Carnut,
sorry my english is not so good, ok itīs bad  8)
I understand a little bit, but canīt write it.
Thatīs the reason because I write short rates.

ragards
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