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Re: MPC#008
« Reply #25 on: January 01, 2012, 04:43:07 AM »
Pininfarina ?

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Re: MPC#008
« Reply #26 on: January 03, 2012, 10:02:05 AM »
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Re: MPC#008
« Reply #27 on: January 04, 2012, 06:31:50 PM »
#9 should be a Stanguellini, probably a 1100.
#8 perhaps a Lancia Aprilia by Pagani.
#12 is a Siata 1100, probably with a reshaped nose.
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Re: MPC#008
« Reply #28 on: January 05, 2012, 08:47:23 AM »
#9 should be a Stanguellini, probably a 1100.
#8 perhaps a Lancia Aprilia by Pagani.
#12 is a Siata 1100, probably with a reshaped nose.
#8 is not the name I have...
#9 and #12 are unknown to me... but I believe they're not 1100 as this is the "over 1100cc" starting grid (I wrote it in one of the first posts) ... I'm not sure so maybe some "up to 1100cc" cars raced in this class...
If yu can prove it...
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Re: MPC#008
« Reply #29 on: January 09, 2012, 12:15:22 PM »
Up again!
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Re: MPC#008
« Reply #30 on: January 09, 2012, 12:28:48 PM »
Number #8 : Lancia Aprilia Barchetta by Touring.

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Re: MPC#008
« Reply #31 on: January 09, 2012, 12:38:27 PM »
#6 Fiat 500 Gilco Sport?

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Re: MPC#008
« Reply #32 on: January 09, 2012, 12:39:29 PM »
#15 :Alfa 6C by Ghia ?

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Re: MPC#008
« Reply #33 on: January 09, 2012, 12:42:08 PM »
#8 : Lancia Paganelli ?

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Re: MPC#008
« Reply #34 on: January 09, 2012, 12:43:57 PM »
#6 : Aprillia by Colli ?

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Re: MPC#008
« Reply #35 on: January 09, 2012, 01:09:48 PM »
Number #8 : Lancia Aprilia Barchetta by Touring.
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Re: MPC#008
« Reply #36 on: January 09, 2012, 01:11:45 PM »
#8 : Lancia Paganelli ?
I have it as Touring, who should be the coachbuilder... I don't know about Paganelli...
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Re: MPC#008
« Reply #37 on: January 09, 2012, 05:10:38 PM »
#15 :Alfa 6C by Ghia ?
I never saw this 6C by Ghia, but I think it could be the correct car... do you have a better picture or more info to confirm it?
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Re: MPC#008
« Reply #38 on: January 09, 2012, 05:29:00 PM »
#6 Fiat 500 Gilco Sport?
#6 : Aprillia by Colli ?
Surely not a 500, it could be a Colli Aprilia... it's similar but the fenders are different and there are other different parts.
Here another picture of the same starsting grid... if it can helps...
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Re: MPC#008
« Reply #39 on: January 12, 2012, 11:37:40 AM »
#13 - Aldo Renzini, Tinarelli Lancia Aprilia
#15 - Giovanna Maria Cornaggia Medici, Sail Alfa Romeo 2500 SS

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Re: MPC#008
« Reply #40 on: January 12, 2012, 11:47:24 AM »
#13 - Aldo Renzini, Tinarelli Lancia Aprilia
#15 - Giovanna Maria Cornaggia Medici, Sail Alfa Romeo 2500 SS
For sure #13 is an Aprilia and #15 a 6C 2500...
but I don't know if they are Tinarelli or Sail...
SACO said he think #15 is a Ghia, and I think he can be correct... but I never saw it...
Can you please find pics or good sources for these names??
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Re: MPC#008
« Reply #41 on: January 12, 2012, 11:52:27 AM »
I'll PM you my source in a minute.

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Re: MPC#008
« Reply #42 on: January 12, 2012, 12:29:01 PM »
#10 - Giovanni Bracco, Fiat-Maserati. Gonna be also by Tinarelli, by the way.
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Re: MPC#008
« Reply #43 on: January 12, 2012, 12:32:38 PM »
Regarding #6, I think SACO could be right about the car.

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Re: MPC#008
« Reply #44 on: January 12, 2012, 12:56:42 PM »
#11 is probably Giovanni Cattina on Alfa Romeo 8C 2300B MM Touring?

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Re: MPC#008
« Reply #45 on: January 12, 2012, 02:33:23 PM »
You know, looking at the second picture you've posted here, #6 doesn't look quite like Aprilia Colli from the side. Rather like Eugenio Minetti's Zagato bodied Aprilia made by Pagani, which was driven by Giovan Battista Azzi in 1947 (who was running that race). Think this is the car.

It has been mentioned at AP before, BTW: http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=7318.msg64046#msg64046


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Re: MPC#008
« Reply #46 on: January 13, 2012, 07:11:22 AM »
#10 - Giovanni Bracco, Fiat-Maserati. Gonna be also by Tinarelli, by the way.
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Re: MPC#008
« Reply #47 on: January 13, 2012, 07:14:16 AM »
#11 is probably Giovanni Cattina on Alfa Romeo 8C 2300B MM Touring?
I don't think this is the car...
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Re: MPC#008
« Reply #48 on: January 13, 2012, 07:18:39 AM »
#13 - Aldo Renzini, Tinarelli Lancia Aprilia
#15 - Giovanna Maria Cornaggia Medici, Sail Alfa Romeo 2500 SS
OK for the Lancia... but now I don't know what to do for the Alfa... I think I will give a point to SACO too as he found the coachbuilder...
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Re: MPC#008
« Reply #49 on: January 13, 2012, 07:20:50 AM »
I don't think this is the car...
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It probably isn't pictured here indeed. I have just found the info that Cattina was a DNS.