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Puzzles, Games and Name That Car => Solved AutoPuzzles => 2013 => Topic started by: grobmotorix on November 28, 2012, 03:41:18 PM
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Who knows this car?
EDIT: Who knows more about this little bee?
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I think it is time to move this up.
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american?
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No.
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is it a single-seater fiat?
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Itīs not a Fiat and not italian.
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hungary, maybe?
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England?
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No and no...
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Japan?
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No, itīs from Europe.
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french?
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Yes!
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Ratier?
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No.
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salmson?
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No.
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is this the little micron ?
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No, but it also starts with an "M"...
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marie?
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Monet-Goyon?
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No and no, but the last guess is next to the solution -alphabetically seen.
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Mourre 1921?
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wrong alphabetical direction...
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montier ?
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Molla 1922
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mouette 1923?
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No and no.
The company is not really unknown to friends of small cars.
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motobloc?
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No.
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Mauve?
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motobecane?
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No and no.
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Max, 1925?...not so many chances yet!
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michel irat?
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No and no.
The make has 14 hits at autopuzzlesī search engine and three cars of the are presented as puzzles, yet (without mine...).
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Have we had Mouchet?
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I think you thought of Mochet.
YES!
LOCKED for you!
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Sorry, I know you locked it, but I think you were wrong when you said the name of this car begins with "M", (this has turned me to exclude the correct answer) and, I think it's a mistake to say the mistery car is a Mochet, as this firm appeared just in 1947. So I don't want to score anyway a point, but please check what Charles Mochet did in 1924.
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I can only tell you, that I saw the car myself,
that the detail shot of the identification plate belongs to this car
and that it is a picture of it in the internet, too.
Unfortunately the owner of the car was not available at this day I made the photos.
Hopefully we will find out more than just Mochet and its model name...
Open for all again.
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I suppose the car is a C.M., firm that Charles Mochet founded in St.Quentin, Seine, in 1923. Until 1924 they produced only pedal car, than provided it with a 350 CMC. I took this I formations from G.N.Georgano Encyclopedia. I too tried to call Mons.Mochet on the phone, but I'm afraid He's out.
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This is all very strange - my entry of "Mouchet" was of course supposed to be Mochet, but even so it was just a guess with no investigation on my part.
Now I have looked at the entries in Georgano the idea that it was built by CM or Mochet seems unlikely. It is far too big to be a converted pedal car, and looks more like a cut-down small sports-car of the late 20s/30s. The wire wheels especially look very 30s. It is nothing like any of Mochet's regular production models of whatever era.
Maybe someone has fixed his plate to another "homemade" car?
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I think what Nicanary says is really agreeable...
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The only image I found of C.M. is hardly similar to the object of the quiz...so I think that's a one-off eventually based on a CM, but I've no further proves.
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Time to move this one up to the Pro's ? May be they can tell us more
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Up!
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Black hole >>>
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I came across some more pictures without any additional information but the Mochet Velocar sign:
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LOCKED for you!
This is exactly the car.
And its name can be read on the cooler mask...
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I can imagine, that this is a one-off, using just the Mochet plate to legalize it in a way.
No modern technical engineer will know an original Mochet, really.
This one here was rear engined, but I canīt tell if itīs a original Mochet design:
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Abeille?
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Good morning - well done, Sherlock!!
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Iīve only found a connection to the Industrion Kerkrade.
(which I unfortunately did not visit during my 10 years in the Aachen region... :bag:)
and to the name Rik Lemmens, which I am not sure might be the current owner.
Rik, excuse me using your name here in the public, but this is a most interesting little car and maybe some day weīll know the history.
Another thing Iīve found about it is this nice drawing of Rene Fijten at his blogspot: