Author Topic: Mochet Abeille velocar, 1948 (self-built)  (Read 1288 times)

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Re: grob 2012.11.28 (01)
« Reply #25 on: January 07, 2013, 01:26:27 AM »
Molla 1922

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Re: grob 2012.11.28 (01)
« Reply #26 on: January 07, 2013, 07:49:15 AM »
mouette 1923?

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Re: grob 2012.11.28 (01)
« Reply #27 on: January 07, 2013, 11:34:43 AM »
No and no.

The company is not really unknown to friends of small cars.

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Re: grob 2012.11.28 (01)
« Reply #28 on: January 07, 2013, 12:15:07 PM »
motobloc?

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Re: grob 2012.11.28 (01)
« Reply #29 on: January 07, 2013, 12:20:43 PM »
No.

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Re: grob 2012.11.28 (01)
« Reply #30 on: January 07, 2013, 02:32:37 PM »
Mauve?

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Re: grob 2012.11.28 (01)
« Reply #31 on: January 07, 2013, 04:00:10 PM »
motobecane?

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Re: grob 2012.11.28 (01)
« Reply #32 on: January 07, 2013, 05:09:16 PM »
No and no.

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Re: grob 2012.11.28 (01)
« Reply #33 on: January 08, 2013, 01:38:38 AM »
Max, 1925?...not so many chances yet!

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Re: grob 2012.11.28 (01)
« Reply #34 on: January 08, 2013, 09:06:57 AM »
michel irat?

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Re: grob 2012.11.28 (01)
« Reply #35 on: January 08, 2013, 11:59:28 AM »
No and no.

The make has 14 hits at autopuzzlesī search engine and three cars of the are presented as puzzles, yet (without mine...).

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Re: grob 2012.11.28 (01)
« Reply #36 on: January 08, 2013, 12:30:28 PM »
Have we had Mouchet?
I must be right - that's what it says on Wikipedia

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Re: grob 2012.11.28 (01)
« Reply #37 on: January 08, 2013, 12:34:01 PM »
I think you thought of Mochet.

YES!

LOCKED for you!
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Re: LOCKED for nicanary: MOCHET grob 2012.11.28 (01)
« Reply #38 on: January 09, 2013, 12:52:54 AM »
Sorry, I know you locked it, but I think you were wrong when you said the name of this car begins with "M", (this has turned me to exclude the correct answer) and, I think it's a mistake to say the mistery car is a Mochet, as this firm appeared just in 1947. So I don't want to score anyway a point, but please check what Charles Mochet did in 1924.

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Re: LOCKED for nicanary: MOCHET grob 2012.11.28 (01)
« Reply #39 on: January 09, 2013, 01:25:37 AM »
I can only tell you, that I saw the car myself,
that the detail shot of the identification plate belongs to this car
and that it is a picture of it in the internet, too.

Unfortunately the owner of the car was not available at this day I made the photos.

Hopefully we will find out more than just Mochet and its model name...


Open for all again.

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Re: MOCHET ??? by grob 2012.11.28 (01)
« Reply #40 on: January 09, 2013, 01:42:58 AM »
I suppose the car is a C.M., firm that Charles Mochet founded in St.Quentin, Seine, in 1923. Until 1924 they produced only pedal car, than provided it with a 350 CMC.  I took this I formations from G.N.Georgano Encyclopedia. I too tried to call Mons.Mochet on the phone, but I'm afraid He's out.

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Re: MOCHET ??? by grob 2012.11.28 (01)
« Reply #41 on: January 09, 2013, 05:33:00 AM »
This is all very strange - my entry of "Mouchet" was of course supposed to be Mochet, but even so it was just a guess with no investigation on my part.

Now I have looked at the entries in Georgano the idea that it was built by CM or Mochet seems unlikely. It is far too big to be a converted pedal car, and looks more like a cut-down small sports-car of the late 20s/30s. The wire wheels especially look very 30s. It is nothing like any of Mochet's regular production models of whatever era.

Maybe someone has fixed his plate to another "homemade" car?
I must be right - that's what it says on Wikipedia

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Re: MOCHET ??? by grob 2012.11.28 (01)
« Reply #42 on: January 09, 2013, 11:03:01 AM »
I think what Nicanary says is really agreeable...

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Re: MOCHET ??? by grob 2012.11.28 (01)
« Reply #43 on: January 09, 2013, 11:09:22 AM »
The only image I found of C.M. is hardly similar to the object of the quiz...so I think that's a one-off eventually based on a CM, but I've no further proves.

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Re: MOCHET ??? by grob 2012.11.28 (01)
« Reply #44 on: March 14, 2013, 09:15:03 AM »
Time to move this one up to the Pro's ? May be they can tell us more

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Re: MOCHET ??? by grob 2012.11.28 (01)
« Reply #45 on: March 15, 2013, 01:06:54 PM »
Up!

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Re: grob : MOCHET ??? 2012.11.28 (01)
« Reply #46 on: April 11, 2013, 12:10:10 PM »
Black hole >>>

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Re: grob : MOCHET ??? 2012.11.28 (01)
« Reply #47 on: May 03, 2013, 05:29:15 PM »
I came across some more pictures without any additional information but the Mochet Velocar sign:

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Re: grob : MOCHET ??? 2012.11.28 (01)
« Reply #48 on: May 03, 2013, 06:08:42 PM »
LOCKED for you!

This is exactly the car.

 And its name can be read on the cooler mask...

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Re: LOCKED for Wendax! grob : MOCHET ??? 2012.11.28 (01)
« Reply #49 on: May 03, 2013, 06:26:22 PM »
I can imagine, that this is a one-off, using just the Mochet plate to legalize it in a way.
No modern technical engineer will know an original Mochet, really.

This one here was rear engined, but I canīt tell if itīs a original Mochet design: