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Solved TGF-207: Butlin's holidays camp train, Skegness, 1938-9.
« on: October 01, 2013, 04:04:49 AM »
I don't know much about this vehicle...even if I have an idea about the base.  What I know is where and when this picture was taken, so tell me these informations and you'll get a point.
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Re: TGF-207
« Reply #1 on: October 01, 2013, 04:17:44 AM »
Butlin's holiday camp, Skegness, 1947
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Re: TGF-207
« Reply #2 on: October 01, 2013, 04:30:27 AM »
Very well and fast...but I have a different year. Locked for you.

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Re: TGF-207
« Reply #3 on: October 01, 2013, 07:41:42 AM »
No idea - 1955?
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Re: TGF-207
« Reply #4 on: October 01, 2013, 08:14:41 AM »
no, earlier.

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Re: TGF-207
« Reply #5 on: October 02, 2013, 07:07:25 PM »
This can go on for ever - 1951?
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Re: TGF-207
« Reply #6 on: October 02, 2013, 07:08:30 PM »
Is this puzzle still locked??

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Re: TGF-207
« Reply #7 on: October 03, 2013, 12:36:10 AM »
One more chance for D-type, than unlocked.
Earlier than 1947.

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Re: TGF-207
« Reply #8 on: October 03, 2013, 03:14:51 PM »
Well, Butlins at Skegness opened in 1936, closed in 1939 and reopened in 1946.  I'll go for 1938
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Re: TGF-207
« Reply #9 on: October 03, 2013, 04:27:33 PM »
Ok, it's enough for me. The picture is from 1939 but it's possible the train was yet working in 1938. I suppose the base is an Austin Seven, but I found no way to check it. A point for you.

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Re: Solved TGF-207: Butlin's holidays camp train, Skegness, 1938-9.
« Reply #10 on: October 03, 2013, 04:42:31 PM »
A bit frustrating this one..........

The photo was taken on August 05 1939 by Felix Mann/Picture Post/ Getty Studios in the locale mentioned.

Here is another photo of the tractor vehicle with a different  trailer at the same place and full of sailors.

I could not find a name for the maker of the tractor.  It did appear in several sites attached to a history of "Bond Minicars" but they did not seem to be in business until after WWII and also seemed to only build 3 wheelers.

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Re: Solved TGF-207: Butlin's holidays camp train, Skegness, 1938-9.
« Reply #11 on: October 04, 2013, 04:09:54 PM »
I wonder, would the picture of the trailer full of sailors have been taken after the MoD had taken over the camp?

It  has an Austin 7 'look' about it.  But, would an Austin 7 have been 'man enough' to haul a road train.  Maybe  its big brother, the Austin 12?

Just speculating
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Re: Solved TGF-207: Butlin's holidays camp train, Skegness, 1938-9.
« Reply #12 on: October 04, 2013, 05:00:42 PM »
This is what it says below the picture with the sailors:

"Navy recruits riding in car and trailer at the HMS Royal Arthur training centre formerly Butlin’s
holiday camp, Skegness. (Photo by Fox Photos/Getty Images). 22nd February 1940"


It looks small enough to be an Austin 7 and judging by the grille a Ruby.

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Re: Solved TGF-207: Butlin's holidays camp train, Skegness, 1938-9.
« Reply #13 on: October 06, 2013, 06:00:27 AM »
I assumed, like some of us, that it was probably a Ruby, but I also agree that maybe it was not powerful enough for the job. So perhaps it's an Austin Big Seven, all 900cc of power.
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I must be right - that's what it says on Wikipedia