Also in this point are different informations all gives the Piaggio origin. The Baron Von Thyssen says that the basic components are from the "Piaggio-Vespa Motorroller", alternatively Walter Zeichner in his book "Kleinwagen Intenational" gives as base the "Piaggio-Kleinsferwagen Ape". When I've stated Vespa was not really meaning scooter but the Ape transporter, that is more like.