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CG #88 - 1905 Renault 14 hp with Joseph Cockshoot coach work
« on: December 04, 2013, 02:02:00 AM »
Not as easy as it looks. For a point, what's the year, make, hp and the coach builder of this car?
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Re: CG #88
« Reply #1 on: December 10, 2013, 03:05:30 PM »
Up a level.
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Re: CG #88
« Reply #2 on: December 10, 2013, 06:07:48 PM »
De Dion Bouton 1903?
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Re: CG #88
« Reply #3 on: December 10, 2013, 06:16:27 PM »
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De Dion Bouton 1903?
Not a De Dion, and a fraction newer.
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Re: CG #88
« Reply #4 on: December 11, 2013, 01:58:02 AM »
Charron?
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Re: CG #88
« Reply #5 on: December 11, 2013, 02:13:19 AM »
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Charron?
Not a Charron. You have to think a bit more obvious for the car make. The hp and coach builder will be a bit harder to find.
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Re: CG #88
« Reply #6 on: December 11, 2013, 02:17:17 AM »
The most obvious would be a Renault.
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Re: CG #88
« Reply #7 on: December 11, 2013, 02:23:32 AM »
It's a Renault.
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Re: CG #88
« Reply #8 on: December 11, 2013, 03:24:04 AM »
It looks about the right size and build to be a 1909 50 h.p. BH.
The only one I can remember seeing has a body built in relatively recent times so I can't offer a coachbuilder's name.
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Re: CG #88
« Reply #9 on: December 11, 2013, 05:15:30 AM »
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It looks about the right size and build to be a 1909 50 h.p. BH.
The only one I can remember seeing has a body built in relatively recent times so I can't offer a coachbuilder's name.
Older than 1909. The hp stated on the original photograph is a lot smaller than 50hp.
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Re: CG #88
« Reply #10 on: December 11, 2013, 05:19:18 AM »
Type N ?
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Re: CG #88
« Reply #11 on: December 11, 2013, 05:40:02 AM »
I don't actually know what model it is. I'll have to find out, I only know the horsepower.
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Re: CG #88
« Reply #12 on: December 11, 2013, 11:26:58 AM »
 14 CV Type X-1 from 1907?
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Re: CG #88
« Reply #13 on: December 11, 2013, 03:08:14 PM »
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14 CV Type X-1 from 1907?
Yes, it's a 14hp. It's a bit older, and I think it's a Type X.

LOCKED for you to find the coach builder. I'll give you a couple of attempts, as I can't find a photo of this particular car on the internet.
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Re: CG #88
« Reply #14 on: December 11, 2013, 03:53:04 PM »
Was the coachbuilder located in or near Paris?
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Re: CG #88
« Reply #15 on: December 11, 2013, 03:54:51 PM »
Not French coachwork.
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Re: CG #88
« Reply #16 on: December 11, 2013, 04:09:48 PM »
European coachwork?
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Re: CG #88
« Reply #17 on: December 11, 2013, 04:12:29 PM »
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European coachwork?

Yes. I've since found a Renault with very similar coachwork, on the internet.
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Re: CG #88
« Reply #18 on: December 11, 2013, 04:17:27 PM »
British coachwork?
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Re: CG #88
« Reply #19 on: December 11, 2013, 04:17:53 PM »
Yes.
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Re: CG #88
« Reply #20 on: December 11, 2013, 04:23:47 PM »
Vincent of Reading?
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Re: CG #88
« Reply #21 on: December 11, 2013, 04:40:56 PM »
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Vincent of Reading?
No, sorry.
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Re: CG #88
« Reply #22 on: December 11, 2013, 04:55:23 PM »
Joseph Cockshoot & Co?
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Re: CG #88
« Reply #23 on: December 11, 2013, 05:01:04 PM »
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Joseph Cockshoot & Co?
Yes, that what I was after. Another point for you.
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