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Ancient Engine #348 - 1912 Turner 10 HP Light Car Engine
« on: October 24, 2012, 03:57:10 AM »
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Re: Ancient Engine #348
« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2012, 12:20:26 PM »
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Re: Ancient Engine #348
« Reply #2 on: October 31, 2012, 01:02:26 PM »
Is it French?

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Re: Ancient Engine #348
« Reply #3 on: October 31, 2012, 01:17:31 PM »
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Re: Ancient Engine #348
« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2012, 05:19:44 AM »
Belgian?

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Re: Ancient Engine #348
« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2012, 05:27:04 AM »
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Re: Ancient Engine #348
« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2012, 05:33:25 AM »
I thought I was onto something.

Is it European?

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Re: Ancient Engine #348
« Reply #7 on: November 01, 2012, 09:25:17 AM »
Yes
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Re: Ancient Engine #348
« Reply #8 on: November 01, 2012, 11:06:44 PM »
How about Italian?

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Re: Ancient Engine #348
« Reply #9 on: November 02, 2012, 03:31:25 AM »
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Re: Ancient Engine #348
« Reply #10 on: November 09, 2012, 03:39:58 AM »
Chuffing to the Pros
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Re: Ancient Engine #348
« Reply #11 on: November 09, 2012, 04:07:31 AM »
I can't immediately recognise it, so I assume it isn't British.
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Re: Ancient Engine #348
« Reply #12 on: November 09, 2012, 04:13:47 AM »
Assumptions can steer you astray
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Re: Ancient Engine #348
« Reply #13 on: November 26, 2012, 04:30:17 PM »
In other words, it's from the UK
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Re: Ancient Engine #348
« Reply #14 on: November 26, 2012, 07:10:16 PM »
In other words, it's from the UK
Thanks, I had understood that 8)
Still doesn't make me recognise an engine that must have been carried in a tubular sub-frame (or chassis) and looks as if it has chain-drives for camshaft and mag.
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Re: Ancient Engine #348
« Reply #15 on: November 27, 2012, 03:56:49 AM »
I can't find a clear photo of the engine installed in the car. You are correct about the chain-drive.
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Re: Ancient Engine #348
« Reply #16 on: December 12, 2012, 07:05:20 AM »
Is it prewar as in pre-WWII or pre-WWI? :)
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Re: Ancient Engine #348
« Reply #17 on: December 12, 2012, 08:07:41 AM »
Indeed it is
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Re: Ancient Engine #348
« Reply #18 on: December 12, 2012, 09:09:29 AM »
So - it's British, pre-1914, with chain-driven cam and I think an inline 4. is that correct?
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Re: Ancient Engine #348
« Reply #19 on: December 12, 2012, 09:28:30 AM »
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Re: Ancient Engine #348
« Reply #20 on: December 29, 2012, 04:28:09 AM »
The company that produced this was already decades-old when the owner - a wise man whose name belies his smarts - saw the automobile business as a growth industry.
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Re: Ancient Engine #348
« Reply #21 on: January 11, 2013, 04:06:26 AM »
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Re: Ancient Engine #348
« Reply #22 on: January 12, 2013, 12:10:27 PM »
The company that produced this was already decades-old when the owner - a wise man whose name belies his smarts - saw the automobile business as a growth industry.

I have been reading some old book articles about steam-powered cars, and one happened to mention that the Managing Director of the Turner Manufacturing Company, which made Turner-Miesse steamers in the UK, was a gentleman by the name of J. Burns Dumbell, who sounds like the guy we're looking for. ;D

Turner produced petrol-engined cars in the years leading up to WW1, and the puzzle motor is their 10hp four cylinder unit introduced in 1912 according to most sources, though one I have seen puts it as early as 1909.

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Re: Ancient Engine #348
« Reply #23 on: January 13, 2013, 03:26:46 AM »
Another impressive use of the clues provided.

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Re: Ancient Engine #348 - 1912 Turner 10 HP Light Car Engine
« Reply #24 on: January 13, 2013, 05:17:18 AM »
Thank you. I hadn't heard of Mr Dumbell before. He's not mentioned in any of the books I have, but he cropped up in an article in the old publication Light Steam Power. Despite the slightly unfortunate name, he's described as a very astute business man.