Author Topic: ADG 74 - SOLVED- 1923 Holverter Car. Patent holder: A.A. Holle. Built by French's Motor Engineering (Read 1595 times)

75america · « **on:** June 07, 2013, 06:22:02 AM »

Whose patent is built and by which company?

75america · « **Reply #1 on:** June 14, 2013, 05:23:14 PM »

Is there an Expert who recognizes this one?

ropat53 · « **Reply #2 on:** June 18, 2013, 09:49:17 AM »

Is it German, the radiator could be of a NAW?

75america · « **Reply #3 on:** June 18, 2013, 12:40:20 PM »

Not from Germany.

ropat53 · « **Reply #4 on:** June 19, 2013, 01:47:24 PM »

Is it French?

75america · « **Reply #5 on:** June 19, 2013, 02:04:33 PM »

It's not from France.

ropat53 · « **Reply #6 on:** June 19, 2013, 02:34:13 PM »

Belgium?

75america · « **Reply #7 on:** June 19, 2013, 02:41:25 PM »

ropat53 · « **Reply #8 on:** June 19, 2013, 06:10:53 PM »

Italian, is this the prototype the Fiat SPA TL37 trattore leggero was to be based on?
The radiator looks T13 Bugatti, but the engine does not, Diatto?

75america · « **Reply #9 on:** June 21, 2013, 02:09:34 PM »

Not Italian.
But the engine came from a company that had it's roots in Italy (I don't think the engine itself came from Italy)...
And there does as well exist a drawing of an Italian car-rolling chassis which applies this patent...

ropat53 · « **Reply #10 on:** June 24, 2013, 10:36:44 PM »

Is it Miklós Straussler patent, manufactured by Manfred Weiss of Csepel, in Hungary?

75america · « **Reply #11 on:** June 25, 2013, 06:08:21 AM »

Different patent. Different maker. Different country.

75america · « **Reply #12 on:** July 06, 2013, 06:22:10 AM »

Pro's know.

sixtee5cuda · « **Reply #13 on:** July 06, 2013, 09:54:25 AM »

This is the 1923 Holverter Car. Designed by patent holder A.A. Holle of Belgium, and built by French's Motor Engineering Works in London.

Equipped with four-wheel independent suspension, four-wheel drive, and also four-wheel steering. Steering can be set so the rear wheels are steered in either the opposite or the same direction as the front wheels.

75america · « **Reply #14 on:** July 07, 2013, 02:37:17 AM »

Quote from: sixtee5cuda on July 06, 2013, 09:54:25 AM

This is the 1923 Holverter Car. Designed by patent holder A.A. Holle of Belgium, and built by French's Motor Engineering Works in London.

Equipped with four-wheel independent suspension, four-wheel drive, and also four-wheel steering. Steering can be set so the rear wheels are steered in either the opposite or the same direction as the front wheels.

Alexander Albert Holle came from Holland, not Belgium. He lived in London.
Engine came from Anzani.

In the Alfa Romeo Archives, there is a drawing present that uses the same 'Chassis Holle' technique. The drawing is signed 'A. Fedi, 18-3-1926'. Strange is that the text on the drawing is in French, not Italian.

More of this patent can be found through Google Patents => N° 1476447

A well deserved point.

And can some editor please move this to the Solved section.

Otto Puzzell · « **Reply #15 on:** July 07, 2013, 03:39:31 AM »

sixtee5cuda · « **Reply #16 on:** July 07, 2013, 09:59:10 AM »

Would it be all right, if I posted a link to a video of Mr. Holle demonstrating another version of the car for the King of Spain?

qwaszx · « **Reply #17 on:** July 07, 2013, 03:17:36 PM »

PLEASE!

sixtee5cuda · « **Reply #18 on:** July 07, 2013, 07:00:18 PM »

(This was a fun puzzle.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeoBHhwSh9c

I think you can see the car steering all four wheels during the off-road trials.

pnegyesi · « **Reply #19 on:** December 11, 2016, 09:39:32 AM »

Please ID the builder of this car for a point

pnegyesi · « **Reply #20 on:** December 18, 2016, 10:33:46 AM »

Experts?

richard cuyler · « **Reply #21 on:** December 19, 2016, 06:50:19 AM »

Is it a one-off?

pnegyesi · « **Reply #22 on:** December 19, 2016, 07:03:04 AM »

yes and you can find plenty of info on this online

pnegyesi · « **Reply #23 on:** January 01, 2017, 01:33:12 PM »

Professionals?

ropat53 · « **Reply #24 on:** January 01, 2017, 08:31:40 PM »

1923 Holverter Car. Patent holder: A.A. Holle. Built by French's Motor Engineering
http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/2013-42/adg-74-solved-1923-holverter-car-patent-holder-a-a-holle-built-by-french's-motor/msg282762/#msg282762

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Author Topic: ADG 74 - SOLVED- 1923 Holverter Car. Patent holder: A.A. Holle. Built by French's Motor Engineering (Read 1595 times)