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Re: Who-what-where-when by Ray B. #558
« Reply #25 on: July 06, 2012, 04:38:09 AM »
Was the puzzle pic 'colorized'?
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Re: Who-what-where-when by Ray B. #558
« Reply #26 on: July 06, 2012, 06:24:39 AM »
Absolutely not.
It's a period Kodacolor print, bearing the precise date on the back (and the full answer to the puzzle question). The colors seem not to have faded too much, but the photographic paper aged and got a yellowish tone, hence the greenish sky.
I don't have the print myself, but found a scan on the internet.
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Re: Who-what-where-when by Ray B. #558
« Reply #27 on: July 06, 2012, 08:27:44 AM »
Is the girl Norma Jean Baker?
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Re: Who-what-where-when by Ray B. #558
« Reply #28 on: July 06, 2012, 10:36:55 AM »
No sir.
I wrote "rather well-known", not "known all over the world". More skinny. I could add others pics, but they'd be too revealing.
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Re: Who-what-where-when by Ray B. #558
« Reply #29 on: July 06, 2012, 11:51:25 AM »
Wild guess: June Kenney?

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Re: Who-what-where-when by Ray B. #558
« Reply #30 on: July 06, 2012, 12:04:03 PM »
Not her, but you've made a big step forward.
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Re: Who-what-where-when by Ray B. #558
« Reply #31 on: July 06, 2012, 02:30:13 PM »
That last picture gave me an idea, and I think I know who the lady is now...

But I can't find the car.  :(

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Re: Who-what-where-when by Ray B. #558
« Reply #32 on: July 06, 2012, 03:09:03 PM »
was the pictures taken 1940's?

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Re: Who-what-where-when by Ray B. #558
« Reply #33 on: July 06, 2012, 04:46:05 PM »
was the pictures taken 1940's?
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That last picture gave me an idea, and I think I know who the lady is now...

But I can't find the car.  :(
This puzzle will be locked until maybe wednesday for the puzzler who identifies the girl. I can answer until monday morning GMT, then I'm away 3 days.
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Re: Who-what-where-when by Ray B. #558
« Reply #34 on: July 06, 2012, 04:53:44 PM »
The girl  is Maila Nurmi

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Re: Who-what-where-when by Ray B. #558
« Reply #35 on: July 07, 2012, 03:47:47 AM »
 :applause: for Oguerrerob, and locked for him 48 hours

Maila Nurmi, aka Vampira, being born in Finland (niece of famour runner Paavo Nurmi) was a true blonde and not a brunette as one might guess. here are some of my others "two revealing" pictures.
I don't know much about the car, maybe based on a model A, as RayTheRat and Allan L supposed. But the nickname that Maila gave her is somewhere to be found.
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Re: Who-what-where-when by Ray B. #558
« Reply #36 on: July 07, 2012, 04:19:48 AM »
"....I've been collecting pictures of American late-night TV hostesses on my hard-drive for years". :D
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Re: Who-what-where-when by Ray B. #558
« Reply #37 on: July 08, 2012, 02:20:31 PM »
I've been digging inside the Maila Nurmi's life. I've only found a few relations with cars.  1. Packard, where she goes round.  2. Cadillac where she was photograph.  3. Some Roadster where she promoted Valvoline oil. And her relationship with James Dean and his Porsche Speedster crashed (the Hollywood gossips stated that she coursed Dean, for leaving her). None of them are this car.  So, please keep it open
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Re: Who-what-where-when by Ray B. #558
« Reply #38 on: July 08, 2012, 03:12:17 PM »
The Packard was supposedly a 1932 model, but it looks more like a 1923 Series 126.

The roadster seems to be powered by a small block Chevy V8 and with its 3-point seat belt/shoulder harness appears ro be a much later-built hot rod than the puzzle photo.

There's no way it could be James Dean's "Little Bastard" Porsche 550 Spyder in which he was killed.  Dean and Nurmi were actually good friends, although he contacted her because of his interest in the occult.  She told him that her stuff was all an act, but they remained friends anyway.

I haven't found the name of the car, either.


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Re: Who-what-where-when by Ray B. #558
« Reply #39 on: July 08, 2012, 05:02:22 PM »
Thanks for those images, Ray. I only knew the Packard pictures (great ones), not the Cadillac or the roadster. And I have images of her with other celebrities.

The puzzle car really was her own car as I understand.
The lock will be lifted in about 11 hours, but I probably won't be able to reply for two days.
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Re: Who-what-where-when by Ray B. #558
« Reply #40 on: July 09, 2012, 03:43:05 AM »
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Re: Who-what-where-when by Ray B. #558
« Reply #41 on: July 09, 2012, 03:43:55 AM »
The lock will be lifted in 5 minutes.
Then it will be a free for all.
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Re: Who-what-where-when by Ray B. #558
« Reply #42 on: July 18, 2012, 08:03:16 PM »
Is this picture from a movie?

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Re: Who-what-where-when by Ray B. #558
« Reply #43 on: July 19, 2012, 01:25:17 PM »
Not from a movie. This detail below fits more an amateur snapshot (and, by the way, one can learn who took it).

It's a period Kodacolor print, bearing the precise date on the back (and the full answer to the puzzle question). The colors seem not to have faded too much, but the photographic paper aged and got a yellowish tone, hence the greenish sky.
I don't have the print myself, but found a scan on the internet.
Still, some elements (including of course Maila herself) are related to movies.
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Re: Who-what-where-when by Ray B. #558
« Reply #44 on: July 19, 2012, 04:55:18 PM »
The Maila look period (blonde, short haired) seems to be related to the motion picture 'Sex Kittens go to College' 1960.

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Re: Who-what-where-when by Ray B. #558
« Reply #45 on: July 20, 2012, 04:00:46 AM »
Nope. This picture is several years earlier.
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Re: Who-what-where-when by Ray B. #558
« Reply #46 on: July 31, 2012, 03:58:55 AM »
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Re: Who-what-where-when by Ray B. #558
« Reply #47 on: July 31, 2012, 08:25:26 AM »
Is the car based on a Model T Ford?  (going by the wheels)

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Re: Who-what-where-when by Ray B. #558
« Reply #48 on: July 31, 2012, 05:07:14 PM »
Based on a model T or A (as suggested before) is unknown and of little importance. Please re-read the puzzle question (I modified it to make it clearer).
The color (a bit faded on this snapshot) is one familiar to customizers, by the way.
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Re: Who-what-where-when by Ray B. #558
« Reply #49 on: August 02, 2012, 06:36:11 AM »
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The 4 questions are all in the topic's title:
Who is this rather well-known lady, how was this car it called, where and when was this picture taken.

The lady is already established: Maila Nurmi, aka Vampira
The car's name is something I haven't been able to find...and not because I haven't searched!
The same holds true for the when and where, although I think it's probably a publicity/portfolio photo that pre-dates Ms Nurmi's short-lived fame as Vampira.

Car color.  The first name that would come to mind would be "Candy Apple Red."  However, I don't think candy-color paints were used at the time that photo was done....it wasn't generally used until the mid-50s.  I've been doing body work and paint for quite a while, even though it's not something I do all the time.  The first time I painted a car was in 1962.  At that time, any paint that used a translucent top coat (such as candy or pearl or metalflake) was pretty much reserved for trailer queen show cars, since the clear lacquer used to cover or blend the candy color was very sensitive to UV light and if left in the sunlight would turn milky yellow.  So that brings us to the other popular red color of the time, "Fire Engine Red."

Taking a close look at the car, the wheels, bumper and steering wheel all seem to be from a Ford Model A.  The wheels appear to be 1928/29 vintage (21 inch vs the 19s used on 1930 and 1931 Model As.)  The car seems to have had a fair degree of use, judging by the wear on the inside of the front fender.  The rest of the car appears to be a hand-crafted, or perhaps an aftermarket speedster body.  The Mercury brand was a popular one in the 30s.

In the photo, Ms Nurmi's hair is her natural blonde color, rather than the black she adopted for her role as Vampira, which began in 1954.  That role didn't last very long, but it "sealed her fate", so to speak and she was typecast as Vampira for the rest of her life.  I think she got a raw deal, but that's personal opinion.

Returning to the blonde look in the photo, I'd guess that it dates from the late 40s or early 50s when she was doing pinup modeling and about any other job she could get...like working as a hat-check girl at a night club.  (How many of those positions still exist?  Not many if any at all, I'd wager.)  See attached image as a pinup model.

I wish I could provide more info (and find the photo of the damned car.)  I think I've run out of creative insomnia.  G'nite

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