Author Topic: Works - Jaray Mercedes-Benz 200 lang or 230 with Reutter body, ca. 1935/36  (Read 4363 times)

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Who knows this car?

One point for the technical basis car and the designer.
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Re: grob 2012_03_16 (01)
« Reply #1 on: March 23, 2012, 12:25:04 PM »
for our experts.

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Re: grob 2012_03_16 (01)
« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2012, 02:24:51 PM »
1938 Mercedes-Benz 170V with bodywork by Kamm.

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Re: grob 2012_03_16 (01)
« Reply #3 on: March 23, 2012, 03:16:18 PM »
Locked for you.

You´re almost right, but my source claims this to be a different design.

So this is not Kamm, but...

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Re: LOCKED: grob 2012_03_16 (01)
« Reply #4 on: March 24, 2012, 08:46:55 AM »
OK, the bodywork is by Wendler, not Kamm.

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Re: LOCKED: grob 2012_03_16 (01)
« Reply #5 on: March 24, 2012, 02:37:45 PM »
Hmmm,

I do not have any information about who really built it, so you may be right with the Wendler guess.

I still need the (very well known) name of the designer to award this point.

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Re: LOCKED: grob 2012_03_16 (01)
« Reply #6 on: March 25, 2012, 08:01:26 AM »
Go ahead and unlock it.

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Re: LOCKED: grob 2012_03_16 (01)
« Reply #7 on: March 25, 2012, 08:04:03 AM »
O.K.

I´ve got to correct myself:

it is a mercedes, but not a 170V...

So we still need the right number and the designer´s name.

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Re: LOCKED: grob 2012_03_16 (01)
« Reply #8 on: May 04, 2012, 08:28:34 AM »




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Re: grob 2012_03_16 (01) Mercedes XXX by XXX??
« Reply #9 on: May 04, 2012, 10:31:14 AM »
Sorry for the slightly delayed de-lock action...

Open again, of course.

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Re: grob 2012_03_16 (01) Mercedes XXX by XXX??
« Reply #10 on: May 04, 2012, 09:13:47 PM »
It appears to be an extension of the Autobahnkurier concept, designed after the ideas of Paul Jaray and Baron Reinhard von Koenig-Fachsenfeld.

Similarities include fastback design, and covers over the rear wheels.

Previous Autobahnkurier cars were 320-based, but this model looks smaller, like it is a 230.

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Re: grob 2012_03_16 (01) Mercedes XXX by XXX??
« Reply #11 on: May 05, 2012, 03:27:12 AM »
Take only one of the two names and I will lock it for you.
You then only have to chose the right one and tell me a different model number and this would be your point!

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Re: grob 2012_03_16 (01) Mercedes XXX by XXX??
« Reply #12 on: May 05, 2012, 10:28:04 AM »
Designer was Baron Reinhard von Koenig-Fachsenfeld

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Re: grob 2012_03_16 (01) Mercedes XXX by XXX??
« Reply #13 on: May 05, 2012, 11:32:02 AM »
My source says it´s been the other guy...

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Re: grob 2012_03_16 (01) Mercedes XXX by XXX??
« Reply #14 on: May 05, 2012, 12:16:21 PM »
Do I get a lock by saying "Paul Jaray"?   :)

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Re: grob 2012_03_16 (01) Mercedes XXX by XXX??
« Reply #15 on: May 05, 2012, 01:08:31 PM »
Yes, LOCKED for you.

Tell me the right number of the Mercedes and you´ll get a point...

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Re: LOCKED: grob 2012_03_16 (01) Jaray Mercedes XXX?
« Reply #16 on: May 05, 2012, 01:17:59 PM »
230

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Re: LOCKED: grob 2012_03_16 (01) Jaray Mercedes XXX?
« Reply #17 on: May 05, 2012, 01:22:43 PM »
-

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Re: LOCKED: grob 2012_03_16 (01) Jaray Mercedes XXX?
« Reply #18 on: May 05, 2012, 06:02:20 PM »
320?

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Re: LOCKED: grob 2012_03_16 (01) Jaray Mercedes XXX?
« Reply #19 on: May 05, 2012, 06:30:13 PM »
I said "-", not "+"  ;)

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Re: LOCKED: grob 2012_03_16 (01) Jaray Mercedes XXX?
« Reply #20 on: May 05, 2012, 06:52:02 PM »
170 ? :)

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Re: LOCKED: grob 2012_03_16 (01) Jaray Mercedes XXX?
« Reply #21 on: May 05, 2012, 06:54:47 PM »
200

(I guess they made 200's in 1937, and this car is a prototype/proposal, so it could be a 200 as well)

And at this moment, I finally found a rear view picture of the car in question.  Definitely a 200.  Stromlinien-Special-Limousine

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Re: LOCKED: grob 2012_03_16 (01) Jaray Mercedes XXX?
« Reply #22 on: May 06, 2012, 01:35:02 AM »
Your point, finally!

My source claims it to be a special works version of the Mercedes 200 lang (long wheelbase),
fitted with an aerodynamic body after Jaray patents, built at Reutter Karosseriewerke Stuttgart.

A small series of those were planned, but I think it never saw a kind of real production.
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Re: Works - Jaray Mercedes 200 lang with Reutter-Body, ca. 1935/36
« Reply #23 on: May 30, 2012, 06:42:33 AM »
I think this one should be put to rest in the Solved section ;)
It's not denial, I'm just very selective about the reality I accept.

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Re: Works - Jaray Mercedes 200 lang with Reutter-Body, ca. 1935/36
« Reply #24 on: May 30, 2012, 08:04:15 AM »
Sure, thank you...