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Title: Who Remembers? #332 - 1899 Elliot Motor Carriage Company 4HP
Post by: Otto Puzzell on October 12, 2012, 05:33:03 AM
For one point: Identify the builder and the year.

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Title: Re: Who Remembers? #332
Post by: grobmotorix on October 13, 2012, 08:11:52 AM
Is it a Waverly?
Title: Re: Who Remembers? #332
Post by: Otto Puzzell on October 13, 2012, 01:37:56 PM
Is it a Waverly?

Much more obscure
Title: Re: Who Remembers? #332
Post by: pnegyesi on October 13, 2012, 01:58:58 PM
Is it from Pennsylvania?
Title: Re: Who Remembers? #332
Post by: Otto Puzzell on October 13, 2012, 02:36:36 PM
Is it from Pennsylvania?

It is not
Title: Re: Who Remembers? #332
Post by: pnegyesi on October 14, 2012, 02:58:54 AM
It looks a bit similar to Emil Seeliger's self-built car from 1904
Title: Re: Who Remembers? #332
Post by: Otto Puzzell on October 14, 2012, 04:36:44 AM
It looks a bit similar to Emil Seeliger's self-built car from 1904

It's not that. This was offed for sale by a manufacturer.
Title: Re: Who Remembers? #332
Post by: pnegyesi on October 14, 2012, 04:43:45 AM
Powered by steam engine?
Title: Re: Who Remembers? #332
Post by: Allan L on October 14, 2012, 04:45:20 AM
Powered by steam engine?
I was tryping the following when you asked the same thing!

Looks like many of the small steamers of the 1890s, so is it in fact a steamer?
Title: Re: Who Remembers? #332
Post by: Otto Puzzell on October 14, 2012, 05:07:37 AM
Not steam-powered.
Title: Re: Who Remembers? #332
Post by: pnegyesi on October 14, 2012, 05:09:48 AM
Electric?
Title: Re: Who Remembers? #332
Post by: Otto Puzzell on October 14, 2012, 05:41:53 AM
Electric?

Nope
Title: Re: Who Remembers? #332
Post by: grobmotorix on October 14, 2012, 07:02:48 AM
Is it american at all? (USA)
Title: Re: Who Remembers? #332
Post by: Otto Puzzell on October 14, 2012, 07:34:36 AM
Is it american at all? (USA)

Yes
Title: Re: Who Remembers? #332
Post by: Wendax on October 15, 2012, 02:54:14 PM
1903 Buckmobile?
Title: Re: Who Remembers? #332
Post by: Otto Puzzell on October 15, 2012, 02:59:19 PM
Not one of those. This is also older.

Title: Re: Who Remembers? #332
Post by: RayTheRat on October 16, 2012, 02:17:12 PM
1899 American?
Title: Re: Who Remembers? #332
Post by: Otto Puzzell on October 16, 2012, 03:46:52 PM
1899 American?


Yes!
Title: Re: Who Remembers? #332
Post by: RayTheRat on October 16, 2012, 04:05:52 PM
Well, well, well!  Here's a photo from my "archives."  I don't know any more about it other than its Stanhope body style.



Title: Re: Who Remembers? #332
Post by: Otto Puzzell on October 16, 2012, 04:27:29 PM
Same body configuration, for sure. Now, you only need to wade through the 1,000 or so companies that built that body style around the turn of the century.  :D
Title: Re: Who Remembers? #332
Post by: RayTheRat on October 16, 2012, 06:08:11 PM
That IS the company.  It's the American stanhope, built in 1899.  Well, at least that's the photo I attached.  If it's another company other than the one called "American" (sorta like American Motors...and apparently it is), I'll keep looking.

RtR
Title: Re: Who Remembers? #332
Post by: Otto Puzzell on October 17, 2012, 03:50:53 AM
This car was offered by a company not called Stanhope
Title: Re: Who Remembers? #332
Post by: Paul Jaray on October 17, 2012, 04:30:04 PM
I have 5 makers called American (American Carriage Motor Company, New York City, New York - American Motor Company, New York City, New York - American Automobile Company, New York City, New York - American Automobile Motor & Power Company, Brooklin, New York - American Manufacturing Company, Alexandria, Virginia) plus 88 makers called American XXXXXXX.
I think RTR refers to one of them.
(BTW there was a Stanhope too: Stanhope Motors (Leeds) Ltd, Leeds, Yorkshire \ Stanhope Brothers Ltd, Leeds, Yorkshire, but not in the USA).
Title: Re: Who Remembers? #332
Post by: Otto Puzzell on October 17, 2012, 04:38:33 PM
The puzzle car maker's name is not "American", "Stanhope", or any combination of those two names.
Title: Re: Who Remembers? #332
Post by: RayTheRat on October 18, 2012, 07:43:26 PM
Is the model called "stanhope"?  That is an open 2-seater, with tiller steering?

Title: Re: Who Remembers? #332
Post by: Otto Puzzell on October 19, 2012, 03:18:18 AM
Is the model called "stanhope"?  That is an open 2-seater, with tiller steering?



The scant information I have on the car doesn't call it as such, but it fits the parameters of a 'stanhope' configuaration: single bench seat mounted at the center, folding cloth top, and a dashboard at the front.
Title: Re: Who Remembers? #332
Post by: RayTheRat on October 19, 2012, 02:39:17 PM
Thank you.  The search continues.
Title: Re: Who Remembers? #332
Post by: GrahamClayton on October 20, 2012, 08:08:54 AM
1899 Riker?
Title: Re: Who Remembers? #332
Post by: Otto Puzzell on October 20, 2012, 08:10:15 AM
No sir.
Title: Re: Who Remembers? #332
Post by: pnegyesi on October 21, 2012, 06:50:05 AM
Was the manufacturer based in New England?
Title: Re: Who Remembers? #332
Post by: Otto Puzzell on October 21, 2012, 07:21:06 AM
No
Title: Re: Who Remembers? #332
Post by: pnegyesi on October 21, 2012, 07:31:24 AM
Was the manufacturer based on the West Coast?
Title: Re: Who Remembers? #332
Post by: Otto Puzzell on October 21, 2012, 08:14:09 AM
Yes
Title: Re: Who Remembers? #332
Post by: pnegyesi on October 21, 2012, 08:18:18 AM
California?
Title: Re: Who Remembers? #332
Post by: Otto Puzzell on October 21, 2012, 08:22:14 AM
 :nod:
Title: Re: Who Remembers? #332
Post by: Wendax on October 21, 2012, 08:25:19 AM
From L.A.?
Title: Re: Who Remembers? #332
Post by: Otto Puzzell on October 21, 2012, 08:47:18 AM
 :disbelief:
Title: Re: Who Remembers? #332
Post by: pnegyesi on October 21, 2012, 09:10:14 AM
San Francisco?
Title: Re: Who Remembers? #332
Post by: Otto Puzzell on October 21, 2012, 09:20:53 AM
San Francisco?

:nod:
Title: Re: Who Remembers? #332
Post by: pnegyesi on October 21, 2012, 09:24:44 AM
Ryder?
Title: Re: Who Remembers? #332
Post by: Wendax on October 21, 2012, 09:28:22 AM
Smith?
Title: Re: Who Remembers? #332
Post by: Otto Puzzell on October 21, 2012, 01:25:24 PM
Ryder?

No
Title: Re: Who Remembers? #332
Post by: Otto Puzzell on October 21, 2012, 01:25:44 PM
Smith?

No
Title: Re: Who Remembers? #332
Post by: pnegyesi on October 21, 2012, 01:46:33 PM
California?
Title: Re: Who Remembers? #332
Post by: Wendax on October 21, 2012, 01:47:51 PM
Sparks?
Title: Re: Who Remembers? #332
Post by: Otto Puzzell on October 21, 2012, 02:06:16 PM
California?

The maker is not California
Title: Re: Who Remembers? #332
Post by: Otto Puzzell on October 21, 2012, 02:06:41 PM
Sparks?

No
Title: Re: Who Remembers? #332
Post by: pnegyesi on October 21, 2012, 02:27:37 PM
Sunset?
Title: Re: Who Remembers? #332
Post by: Otto Puzzell on October 21, 2012, 04:12:57 PM
Sunset?

No
Title: Re: Who Remembers? #332
Post by: Paul Jaray on October 21, 2012, 04:18:36 PM
Eureka?
Title: Re: Who Remembers? #332
Post by: João on October 21, 2012, 09:35:14 PM
O'Brien & Sons?
Title: Re: Who Remembers? #332
Post by: Otto Puzzell on October 22, 2012, 04:37:55 AM
Eureka?

No
Title: Re: Who Remembers? #332
Post by: Otto Puzzell on October 22, 2012, 04:38:09 AM
O'Brien & Sons?

No
Title: Re: Who Remembers? #332
Post by: Paul Jaray on October 22, 2012, 04:49:08 AM
Calico?
Title: Re: Who Remembers? #332
Post by: Otto Puzzell on October 22, 2012, 05:18:49 AM
Calico?

No
Title: Re: Who Remembers? #332
Post by: Otto Puzzell on November 01, 2012, 02:13:31 PM
This the first word in this brand's name is the same as a well-known British actor's last name, and is also the same as the first name of an American classical music composer.

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Title: Re: Who Remembers? #332
Post by: João on November 01, 2012, 02:19:48 PM
Everett Motor Carriage Company?
Title: Re: Who Remembers? #332
Post by: Otto Puzzell on November 01, 2012, 02:49:09 PM
No, but the first letter is correct   :grad:
Title: Re: Who Remembers? #332
Post by: pnegyesi on November 01, 2012, 03:03:27 PM
Evans?
Title: Re: Who Remembers? #332
Post by: Otto Puzzell on November 01, 2012, 03:08:26 PM
Not Evans
Title: Re: Who Remembers? #332
Post by: pnegyesi on November 01, 2012, 03:17:03 PM
Eaton?
Title: Re: Who Remembers? #332
Post by: Otto Puzzell on November 01, 2012, 03:41:47 PM
Nope
Title: Re: Who Remembers? #332
Post by: Wendax on November 01, 2012, 04:51:25 PM
Elliott Motor Carriage Company?
Title: Re: Who Remembers? #332
Post by: Otto Puzzell on November 01, 2012, 05:02:48 PM
That's it!  :cheer:
Title: Re: Who Remembers? #332
Post by: Wendax on November 01, 2012, 05:12:51 PM
San Francisco?

:nod:
According to the Standard Catalog, Elliott was located in Oakland. Its inventor, William L. Elliott, was the manager of the Oakland branch of the California Cycle Company of San Francisco.
Title: Re: Who Remembers? #332 - 1899 Elliot Motor Carriage Company 4HP
Post by: Otto Puzzell on November 01, 2012, 05:28:57 PM
I'll post the 1889 ad this came from tomorrow (which says San Francisco).  
Title: Re: Who Remembers? #332 - 1899 Elliot Motor Carriage Company 4HP
Post by: Wendax on November 01, 2012, 05:34:27 PM
Thanks, I guess even the Standard Catalog has some mistakes in it.  ;)
Title: Re: Who Remembers? #332 - 1899 Elliot Motor Carriage Company 4HP
Post by: Otto Puzzell on November 02, 2012, 03:29:12 AM
Well, how about that? I was wrong again. Maybe I should put my puzzle posting days behind me.  :-\

Title: Re: Who Remembers? #332 - 1899 Elliot Motor Carriage Company 4HP
Post by: Wendax on November 02, 2012, 03:47:41 AM
Maybe I should put my puzzle posting days behind me.  :-\
Please don't!