Author Topic: CG #28 - 1907 Arrol-Johnston 12-15hp used by Ernest Shackleton in Antarctica  (Read 376 times)

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Offline Craig Gillingham

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For 1 point, I need to know the make, model and year of this car.

For an extra point, tell me who owned it, and where the photo was taken.
« Last Edit: June 26, 2012, 07:48:34 PM by Craig Gillingham »

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Re: CG #28
« Reply #1 on: June 15, 2012, 04:59:05 AM »
I think this is a repost, but as it was four years ago I'd let it run for Rookies and perhaps Experts and then merge it.
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Re: CG #28
« Reply #2 on: June 15, 2012, 05:10:06 AM »
Ah, yes it is, I've found it now.

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Re: CG #28
« Reply #3 on: June 25, 2012, 03:19:40 AM »
Up to Expert level.

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Re: CG #28
« Reply #4 on: June 26, 2012, 04:20:59 PM »
I can't believe a rookie didn't pick this one off.

The first motor car in Antarctica - 1908:
"These were the pioneer days of the motor car. Shackleton was given a car specially built for the expedition by the Arrol-Johnston company of Paisley, Scotland. The 4 cylinder, 15 horsepower air cooled car came from the intervention of William Beardmore a major sponsor of the expedition, he had recently taken over Arrol-Johnston to save them from bankruptcy and wanted Scotland to have its own motor industry.

The car was donated for free, though was expected to be used as an advertisement. Great things were expected of it:

"Under favourable circumstances Lieutenant Shackleton computes that the machine can travel 150 miles in twenty four hours and .... he thinks there would be a fair chance of sprinting to the pole"
Interview in "The Car"

Unfortunately however it would transpire otherwise, the petrol engine had not been tested in extreme cold and a suitable system for providing traction in snow had not been devised. The car was taken South without being properly tested in conditions that it was likely to encounter. One thing was abundantly clear to anyone with even a passing acquaintance with such conditions as might be encountered in Antarctica was that ordinary wheels didn't fare well in snow.

Ernest Shackleton (1874-1922) British Imperial Antarctic Expedition "Nimrod - Expedition", 1907 -1909"


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Re: CG #28
« Reply #5 on: June 26, 2012, 04:26:41 PM »
Specifically, it was a 1908 Arrol-Johnston 12/15hp Twin.

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Yes, correct, you get 2 points. Except I had the car being built in 1907, the photo was probably taken in 1908. I also found out that it was an air cooled engine, so it didn't freeze.

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To be merged with this one, as Allan said:
http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=4958.0