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Who knows this car?
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Re: grob 2012_10_31 (03)
« Reply #1 on: November 09, 2012, 03:45:18 PM »
An easy expert“s point...

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Re: grob 2012_10_31 (03)
« Reply #2 on: November 09, 2012, 05:01:19 PM »
German ? DKW ?

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Re: grob 2012_10_31 (03)
« Reply #3 on: November 09, 2012, 05:38:07 PM »
phares and emblem remind me a Gutbrod.
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Re: grob 2012_10_31 (03)
« Reply #4 on: November 09, 2012, 06:00:56 PM »
Now, this is good enough to lock it for you for 24h!

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Re: LOCKED for thorax: grob 2012_10_31 (03)
« Reply #5 on: November 10, 2012, 08:45:56 AM »
Gutbrod Superior 600 Cabriolet by Wendler (1950)
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Re: Gutbrod Superior 600 Cabriolet with special bodywork by Wendler
« Reply #6 on: November 10, 2012, 11:40:46 AM »
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Re: Gutbrod Superior 600 Cabriolet with special bodywork by Wendler
« Reply #7 on: November 10, 2012, 01:45:42 PM »
 :thumbsup:
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Re: Gutbrod Superior 600 Cabriolet with special bodywork by Wendler
« Reply #8 on: November 11, 2012, 08:37:46 AM »
That's the first of two Wendler designed Gutbrod cabriolets. It remained an one-off while the second* was built in small numbers (10 pieces).

Actually the official name is Gutbrod Superior Sport Roadster


* internally the ungainly car was called "Schwangere Ente" ~ pregnant duck.
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Re: Gutbrod Superior 600 Cabriolet with special bodywork by Wendler
« Reply #9 on: November 11, 2012, 09:13:58 AM »
Another :

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Re: Gutbrod Superior 600 Cabriolet with special bodywork by Wendler
« Reply #10 on: November 11, 2012, 11:04:15 AM »
beautiful little car!
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Re: Gutbrod Superior 600 Cabriolet with special bodywork by Wendler
« Reply #11 on: November 11, 2012, 11:11:53 AM »
Joao's picture shows the last of the three (Sorry, Allemano  ;) ) different Superior roadsters built by Wendler. This third version appeared in 1951, was designed by Friedrich Hans van Winsen and remained a one-off.

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Re: Gutbrod Superior 600 Cabriolet with special bodywork by Wendler
« Reply #12 on: November 11, 2012, 12:01:16 PM »
Joao's picture shows the last of the three (Sorry, Allemano  ;) ) different Superior roadsters built by Wendler. This third version appeared in 1951, was designed by Friedrich Hans van Winsen and remained a one-off.
Yes, I recognized that later. :-\
According to Rosellen's book it's not clear if it ever was intended for production (in contrary to the other Wendler roadsters).
It was Wolfgang Gutbrod's private car for many years later.

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Re: Gutbrod Superior 600 Cabriolet with special bodywork by Wendler
« Reply #13 on: November 11, 2012, 12:44:48 PM »
The third one is the most attractively proportioned by far!  Was there perhaps some Italian influence?
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Re: Gutbrod Superior 600 Cabriolet with special bodywork by Wendler
« Reply #14 on: November 11, 2012, 01:10:10 PM »
I don't think so. It was probably styled to look more like the other Gutbrod Superior cars.

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Re: Gutbrod Superior Sport Roadster with special bodywork by Wendler
« Reply #15 on: November 11, 2012, 04:14:36 PM »
Strangely none of the special convertibles has appeared here before - now we hav them all in one thread - thank you guys!

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Re: Gutbrod Superior Sport Roadster with special bodywork by Wendler
« Reply #16 on: November 11, 2012, 04:23:20 PM »
Strangely none of the special convertibles has appeared here before - now we have them all in one thread - thank you guys!
The "production model" did: http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=4615.0

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Re: Gutbrod Superior Sport Roadster with special bodywork by Wendler
« Reply #17 on: November 13, 2012, 08:18:36 AM »
I had never seen the 3rd car before, that really is a lovely little thing.

A well known photo, but it always makes me smile and seems appropriate in this thread:

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Re: Gutbrod Superior Sport Roadster with special bodywork by Wendler
« Reply #18 on: December 18, 2012, 01:24:40 AM »
Here“s another rare photo of the puzzle car:

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Re: Gutbrod Superior Sport Roadster with special bodywork by Wendler
« Reply #19 on: December 18, 2012, 02:18:04 AM »
Here“s another rare photo of the puzzle car:
Yes and no! It is definitely the same body, but it isn't a Gutbrod. When it came clear that the Sport Roadster didn't find Gutbrod's approval, Wendler tried to find another utilization of this body design and sold it as a Topolino body. That was easily done, because wheelbase and chassis size of those two cars were almost identical. Upon further inspection you can see the "FIAT" lettering on the hubcaps.

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Re: Gutbrod Superior Sport Roadster with special bodywork by Wendler
« Reply #20 on: December 18, 2012, 02:11:59 PM »
And I really thought to myself: those wheels do lokk like a Topolino“s...

Well, thank you!

It would have been a nice new puzzle... :-\

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Re: Gutbrod Superior Sport Roadster with special bodywork by Wendler
« Reply #21 on: January 17, 2018, 04:12:39 PM »
The puzzle car with open roof: