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Solved: Wendax 541 - Elite Elektrotriebwagen
« on: April 06, 2012, 02:37:53 AM »
A different kind of microcar  :D

For one point, please respond and identify the maker of this vehicle.

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Re: Wendax 541
« Reply #1 on: April 06, 2012, 06:00:06 AM »
I think it was meant for taller drivers than him...

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Re: Wendax 541
« Reply #2 on: April 06, 2012, 06:04:14 AM »
Overhead steering instead of overhead camshaft  :D

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Re: Wendax 541
« Reply #3 on: April 06, 2012, 06:03:18 PM »

I have seen these before I think. They were an early sort of prime mover/semi trailer type thing we have today.
U used one of these instead of horses for your wagon or trailer.

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Re: Wendax 541
« Reply #4 on: April 07, 2012, 02:49:46 AM »
I think this one ain't that sort of thing

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Re: Wendax 541
« Reply #5 on: April 14, 2012, 02:01:33 AM »
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Re: Wendax 541
« Reply #6 on: April 14, 2012, 02:05:42 PM »
Segway Mk 1. The third wheel had gone by 1909.

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Re: Wendax 541
« Reply #7 on: April 14, 2012, 02:43:45 PM »
 :D
It has something in common with the Sedgway though.

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Re: Wendax 541
« Reply #8 on: April 14, 2012, 05:23:07 PM »
:D
It has something in common with the Sedgway though.

Electric?

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Re: Wendax 541
« Reply #9 on: April 15, 2012, 02:18:22 AM »
Yes

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Re: Wendax 541
« Reply #10 on: April 22, 2012, 02:13:19 AM »
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Re: Wendax 541
« Reply #11 on: April 22, 2012, 05:47:12 AM »
Is that an electric avantrain that can be fitted to a different vehicle?

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Re: Wendax 541
« Reply #12 on: April 22, 2012, 06:04:37 AM »
I'm not sure, but I don't think it was used to motorize formerly horse-drawn coaches. I rather think it is what's called a "Triebkopf" in German, an interchangeable engine module for several chassis/body combinations, like the younger http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=16127.0 . Electric it is.

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Re: Wendax 541
« Reply #13 on: April 25, 2012, 11:25:37 AM »
Elite?
« Last Edit: April 25, 2012, 11:36:16 AM by grobmotorix »

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Re: Wendax 541
« Reply #14 on: April 25, 2012, 11:36:50 AM »
Here are three Elite electric trucks:

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Re: Wendax 541
« Reply #15 on: April 25, 2012, 11:40:43 AM »
Very nice pictures I didn't know! It is the Elite Elektrotriebwagen.

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Re: Solved: Wendax 541 - Elite Elektrotriebwagen
« Reply #16 on: April 25, 2012, 12:24:26 PM »
I even got three more photos that show the enormous range of variations Elite did offer just for this one model (They did have some more!):

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Re: Solved: Wendax 541 - Elite Elektrotriebwagen
« Reply #17 on: April 25, 2012, 12:33:18 PM »
According to my source these were constructed by Elektrofahrzeugfabrik Gebhardt & Harhorn (GeHa) which were taken over in 1917 by Elitewerke AG of Ronneburg.

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Re: Solved: Wendax 541 - Elite Elektrotriebwagen
« Reply #18 on: April 25, 2012, 12:45:13 PM »
According to my sources GeHa just built threewheelers like the one we puzzled before: http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=16432.0

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Re: Solved: Wendax 541 - Elite Elektrotriebwagen
« Reply #19 on: April 25, 2012, 12:51:21 PM »
Elitewagen
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1921 übernahm die Elite Motorenwerke AG die Rex-Simplex- Produktionswerke der Richard & Hering AG in Ronneburg, Sachsen. Hier wurden bis 1923 wurden unter der neuen Firmenzeichnung Elitewagen AG Automobile nach gleicher Konstruktion hergestellt, womit der Rex-Simplex 13/40 PS zum Elitewagen 13/40 PS wurde. Es gab aber auch Autos, die unter der Marke Elite vertrieben wurden. Bis 1925 baute man auch Nutzfahrzeuge unter dieser Marke mit Elektroantrieb, Konstruktion GeHa.



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Re: Solved: Wendax 541 - Elite Elektrotriebwagen
« Reply #20 on: April 25, 2012, 12:53:17 PM »
Allemano is right. Here´are two pages from an Elite catalogue that show the former Geha tricycle now as a part of the Elite-programme:
« Last Edit: April 25, 2012, 12:59:22 PM by grobmotorix »

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Re: Solved: Wendax 541 - Elite Elektrotriebwagen
« Reply #21 on: April 25, 2012, 01:06:08 PM »
I didn't doubt that the GeHa was built by the Elitewagen AG. I knew that. But I don't think that the puzzle truck was constructed by Victor Harhorn while he was working for his GeHa company. I think it was built after Harhorn joined Elite in 1917/1918.

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Re: Solved: Wendax 541 - Elite Elektrotriebwagen
« Reply #22 on: April 25, 2012, 01:15:45 PM »
That's what I read on GeHa

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GeHa baute auch vierrädrige 10-PS-Lastwagen für Nutzlasten bis zu 5 t, versehen mit Radnabenmotoren an den Vorderrädern, sowie Personenwagen mit zwei und vier Sitzen, offen und als Droschken-Limousine, bei denen der Radnabenmotor 6 PS leistete und im linken Hinterrad installiert war. 1919 wurde der Betrieb von den Elite-Werken übernommen, diese bauten GeHa Automobile noch bis 1923, jedoch unter der Markenbezeichnung Elite (Elitewerke AG, Zweigniederlassung Berlin-Schöneberg). Die meisten Fahrzeuge wurden als Lieferwagen karossiert. Die Fahrzeuge erhielten die Zusatzbezeichnung "Das elektrische Pferd". Die Werbung pries die elektrischen Wagen als "Hilfe in der Brennstoffnot" an, denn Tankstellenbenzin war auch nach dem Ersten Weltkrieg zunächst noch Mangelware.

Possible that these are different vehicles. I don't know.


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Re: Solved: Wendax 541 - Elite Elektrotriebwagen
« Reply #23 on: May 06, 2012, 02:45:02 AM »
A book claims it to be the "6-PS-Elektro-Vorsteckwagen" which had a range of ca.80-90km and an electric and a mechanical brake.

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Re: Solved: Wendax 541 - Elite Elektrotriebwagen
« Reply #24 on: May 06, 2012, 04:39:26 PM »
And they were quite common.
Here are some of them in the Netherlands: