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Solved: Wendax 436 - Volkswagen Express by Harmening
« on: January 03, 2012, 04:46:38 PM »
A different kind of convertible.

For one point, please respond and identify this car as well as the coachbuilder.

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Re: Wendax 436
« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2012, 02:39:36 AM »
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Re: Wendax 436
« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2012, 10:51:58 PM »
Is this the power for one of those park trains, hauling people around parks?

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Re: Wendax 436
« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2012, 02:14:45 AM »
Is this the power for one of those park trains, hauling people around parks?
Partly, as you can call it a train as it pulls trailers to haul people, but this one was initially not used in parks, but later on it was a park train indeed.

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Re: Wendax 436
« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2012, 05:41:12 AM »
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Re: Wendax 436
« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2012, 05:51:26 AM »
German?

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Re: Wendax 436
« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2012, 06:19:14 AM »
Yes

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Re: Wendax 436
« Reply #7 on: January 20, 2012, 12:02:51 PM »
Based on a 1930s car?

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Re: Wendax 436
« Reply #8 on: January 20, 2012, 01:04:21 PM »
The hub cap looks like a VW part.

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Re: Wendax 436
« Reply #9 on: January 20, 2012, 02:11:29 PM »
Based on a 1930s car?
It depends how you define a 1930s car. The car it was based on was not built in the 1930s, but it originated from then.

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Re: Wendax 436
« Reply #10 on: January 20, 2012, 02:12:30 PM »
The hub cap looks like a VW part.
Follow that trail  ;D

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Re: Wendax 436
« Reply #11 on: January 26, 2012, 03:48:42 AM »
Trippel?

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Re: Wendax 436
« Reply #12 on: January 26, 2012, 03:55:42 AM »
Is that some kind of special trailer behind the car?
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Re: Wendax 436
« Reply #13 on: January 26, 2012, 04:20:14 AM »

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Re: Wendax 436
« Reply #14 on: January 26, 2012, 04:21:51 AM »
Is that some kind of special trailer behind the car?

Is this the power for one of those park trains, hauling people around parks?
Partly, as you can call it a train as it pulls trailers to haul people, but this one was initially not used in parks, but later on it was a park train indeed.
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Re: Wendax 436
« Reply #15 on: January 30, 2012, 12:01:25 AM »
Could it be the Volkswagen museum bus ?

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Re: Wendax 436
« Reply #16 on: January 30, 2012, 02:56:35 AM »
Yes, that's the car. The puzzle picture was taken before restoration. Locked for you to find the name and the coachbuilder.

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Re: Wendax 436
« Reply #17 on: January 30, 2012, 02:25:40 PM »
Is it based on the Ruhrfahrzeugbau Pinguin ?

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Re: Wendax 436
« Reply #18 on: January 30, 2012, 02:28:27 PM »
No, we already had confirmed that it is VW-based. I just need the name of this "train" and its coachbuilder.

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Re: Wendax 436
« Reply #19 on: February 09, 2012, 01:37:19 PM »
No further reaction for more than a week: unlocked.

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Re: Wendax 436
« Reply #20 on: February 09, 2012, 04:02:57 PM »
I've just found that is the official transportation to this Prototyp Museum in Hafen City, Hamburg

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Re: Wendax 436
« Reply #21 on: February 09, 2012, 04:08:17 PM »
Yes, compare the picture in reply #15.

I still need the name and the coachbuilder.

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Re: Wendax 436
« Reply #22 on: February 09, 2012, 05:47:30 PM »
Seems to be this "trains" were built for some Karroserie Hamburg-Fischbeck IGA-Essenbahn. But in the picture can read Pio Karroserie. They are tagged as Porsche

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Re: Wendax 436
« Reply #23 on: February 10, 2012, 02:53:15 AM »
Well, you get some things mixed up here. There was a coachbuilder called Pio-Karosseriewerk in Hamburg-Fischbek. He built the "IGA-Eisenbahn", IGA stands for Internationale Gartenbau-Ausstellung (International gardening exhibition), which took place in Hamburg in 1963 and 1973. That is the railbound train in the black and white pictures you posted. The picture with the 5 trains show three different types: the three trains to the left were built after the puzzle train by another coachbuilder (Sollinger Hütte), the fourth car is the puzzle train and the fifth car is another train, presumably built by the same coachbuilder as the puzzle train. There is a hint to where those two were built in the source you found, though.

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Re: Wendax 436
« Reply #24 on: February 10, 2012, 04:03:17 AM »
I've found this info:
"The mid-50s there were two so-called trackless trains on a VW beetle chassis. They were called "The Bückeburg" and "Old Fritz".
The trains belongs to Mr. Franke in Berlin. These trains ran on the North Sea beach resort of Norderney. This train is now one of the Porsche Museum in Hamburg, Henry Escher then bought these 2 trains and had the idea of ​​such trains on the Federal Garden Show in Dortmund use 1959th But that's not
enough, there were 3 more "trackless trains Porsche" ordered and made ​​in Sollinger Hütte. At the same time also came the idea of ​​a
Rail track built mitzubauen, which was intended for the Federal Garden Show in Dortmund. (Today Westfalenpark)
The beetles then form the trackless trains were still not satisfactory. It was like looking for a solution to the shape of such a trackless trains could improve. The engine used was decided to use the Porsche industrial engine with 46 hp, which was air-cooled power had something more than the Beetle engine.
Was obvious even then that is also something like styling of the Porsche car (356) took over. This led to the final shape. These 5 trackless trains ran between 1960 Westphalia Hall and the Garden Festival site (Buschmühle)
These 3 trackless trains Porsche were the only ones of this type were built in 1960 for about 6 blocks from similar Porsche Kässbohrer-Dortmund"
According to this is the Buckeburg built by Henry Escher.

Sorry, I don't know German language, Google Translator is confusing instead of helpful