SOLVED - THOR # 45: Race Aosta - Gran San Bernardo

thorax · November 16, 2012, 04:28:47 PM

which race is for one point!

FrontMan · November 20, 2012, 12:13:50 PM

Klausenrennen?

thorax · November 20, 2012, 03:47:39 PM

not from Switzerland

FrontMan · November 21, 2012, 12:17:43 PM

M.Ventoux?

thorax · November 21, 2012, 03:44:25 PM

not from France

FrontMan · November 23, 2012, 09:38:01 AM

Targa Florio?

thorax · November 23, 2012, 04:24:34 PM

no Targa Florio but you are in the right country!

FrontMan · November 29, 2012, 09:48:52 AM

Coppa Acerbo?

thorax · November 29, 2012, 10:16:18 AM

not Coppa Acerbo

thehotstepper · November 29, 2012, 10:33:09 AM

Coppa Florio?

thorax · November 29, 2012, 06:28:29 PM

no.
a little clue: the race was in north Italy

thehotstepper · November 29, 2012, 09:51:11 PM

Well surely it isn't the Mille Miglia?

thorax · November 30, 2012, 04:24:53 AM

not Mille Miglia!
experts?

FrontMan · November 30, 2012, 05:51:20 AM

Cremona?

D-type · November 30, 2012, 06:23:13 AM

Is it a race, as opposed to a hillclimb or a rally?

If it is a race, is it the Coppa Dolomiti?

Iluvatar · November 30, 2012, 09:02:02 AM

Stelvio?

mekubb · November 30, 2012, 01:43:48 PM

Hill climb to Great Saint Bernard (San Bernardo) on the Italian/Swiss border ?

thorax · November 30, 2012, 03:27:47 PM

not Cremona, not Coppa Dolomiti and not Stelvio: but S. Bernardo is the finish point of this race!
locked for Mekubb!

mekubb · November 30, 2012, 04:30:49 PM

It's the Aosta - Gran San Bernardo race, I guess around 1925

thorax · November 30, 2012, 05:00:48 PM

yes it is!
one point for you!

D-type · November 30, 2012, 06:43:05 PM

Was that a race or a hillclimb?

thorax · November 30, 2012, 07:03:56 PM

A hillclimb race from 1920 to 1957

mekubb · November 30, 2012, 07:09:04 PM

And the last couple of years they run a classic version. Haven't seen it so far, but I know the road... must be quite interesting (and scary) to see the oldies racing uphill to approx. 2100 metres above sea level !

D-type · November 30, 2012, 07:35:24 PM

Quote from: thorax on November 30, 2012, 07:03:56 PM
A hillclimb race from 1920 to 1957

In English, a hillclimb is not a race. One major difference is that there is never any need for overtaking.

A hillclimb is a competition to cover an ascent against the clock and cars run one at a time.

A race is generally on a closed circuit with a massed start and cars have to overtake to gain position or to lap slower cars. In earlier times some road races also had cars starting one at a time, the Targa Florio, Mille Miglia and the Carrera Panamericana being the best known postwar ones. As the slowest cars started first the faster cars had to overtake them.

Hence my earlier question seeking clarification.

thorax · December 01, 2012, 04:46:23 AM

yes you are right: in english the Aosta - S. Bernardo is a hillclimb.
but in italian we say "corsa in salita"

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SOLVED - THOR # 45: Race Aosta - Gran San Bernardo