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Re: THOR # 3
« Reply #25 on: September 15, 2012, 12:07:25 PM »
no connection with Lada, sorry
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Re: THOR # 3
« Reply #26 on: October 05, 2012, 07:51:59 PM »
thorax:

I never give up sometimes.
Is this the vehicle???


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« Last Edit: October 19, 2012, 07:19:37 AM by Paul Jaray »
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Re: THOR # 3
« Reply #27 on: October 05, 2012, 11:06:06 PM »
That looks like the puzzle truck.  An MV 55 one-off, built as a joint project with Lada in the 1970's.  If Google Translate is correct, it became the Lada Niva, once rebodied.

I think the point is Bill's.

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Re: THOR # 3
« Reply #28 on: October 06, 2012, 08:02:07 AM »
according my source there is no connection with Lada and the prototype was not built in '70.
Anyway I'll check the article tonight.
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Re: THOR # 3
« Reply #29 on: October 06, 2012, 08:04:15 AM »
the name is almost right: Mv XXXX 55
so locked to Bill.
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Re: THOR # 3
« Reply #30 on: October 06, 2012, 04:37:19 PM »
according to my sources I confirm no connection with Lada: the little truck was made in 1955
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Re: THOR # 3
« Reply #31 on: October 15, 2012, 03:02:38 PM »
Is it called CL55?

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Re: THOR # 3
« Reply #32 on: October 16, 2012, 05:32:50 AM »
No, is called Mv XXXX 55
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Re: THOR # 3
« Reply #33 on: October 16, 2012, 07:48:53 AM »
Thanks, the search continues

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Re: THOR # 3
« Reply #34 on: October 19, 2012, 07:29:48 AM »
The same pic can be found on Quattrorote #120 (Dec.1965).
There are some details about the Ford engine (4v 1699c 75c SAE) and more.
In the article is written "M.V., after the 'Kraka' shown last year, introduced the '55', Ford powered 4wd, ..."
Same picture and same info on TAM (Tutte le Auto del Mondo) edition 1966.
The Beaulieu too as few words about.
If is not locked, are the XXXX (assuming it's not Ford  ;D) for a 4-letter word (not number)?

(BTW. I doubt it's from 1955... ;))
« Last Edit: October 19, 2012, 07:35:26 AM by Paul Jaray »

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Re: THOR # 3
« Reply #35 on: October 19, 2012, 07:47:16 AM »
the puzzle is unlocked.
Paul, probably the magazine Ruoteclassiche has misleaded me: the author says that this vehicle was built in 1955. You confirm, as other members, this error and make the proof with the 4R magazine (I don't have that number).

the XXXX is a four letter word  ;D

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Re: THOR # 3
« Reply #36 on: October 19, 2012, 07:56:23 AM »
...I have all the Ruoteclassiche issues too...1 of 286 it should be easy now!

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Re: THOR # 3
« Reply #37 on: October 19, 2012, 08:39:26 AM »
 :thumbsup:
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Re: THOR # 3
« Reply #38 on: October 23, 2012, 04:32:22 AM »
There is the same pic on pag125 of Ruoteclassiche #113.
Was it TIPO?
The caption says:
"Il 'Tipo 55', sigla che richiama l'anno del lancio, vanta la trazione integrale, un motore Ford a benzina quattro cilindri a V di 1.7 litri'

and in the article:
"Passa ancora un anno e, ..., viene presentato un nuovo autocarro leggero: il "Tipo 55" . Anch'esso con 4 ruote motrici..."

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Re: THOR # 3
« Reply #39 on: October 23, 2012, 07:01:41 AM »
Hi Guys:

Still trying to fill in some blanks here.

The last post seems to indicate that the designation "Tipo 55" indicates the year of the launch of the vehicle which is presumed by most all here to mean 1955.

All of the source materiel mentioned so far, including my now removed link, say that the vehicle was powered by the Ford 1.7 liter V-4.  That engine was not introduced until 1962 and I would bet it was not released for use by other manufacturers for perhaps a few years after that.

I think this may give further indication that perhaps the original, earliest, article
may have contained an error of fact and that error was repeated in later articles about the vehicle.  I seem to have deleted the link I posted, but as stated in my earlier comments, I think that article said the vehicle was from the early 1970 period which would also be consistent with the appearance of the vehicle which does not look like a 1955 era vehicle.

Just some thoughts.
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Re: THOR # 3
« Reply #40 on: October 23, 2012, 07:05:30 AM »
The same pic can be found on Quattrorote #120 (Dec.1965).
There are some details about the Ford engine (4v 1699c 75c SAE) and more.
In the article is written "M.V., after the 'Kraka' shown last year, introduced the '55', Ford powered 4wd, ..."
Same picture and same info on TAM (Tutte le Auto del Mondo) edition 1966.
The Beaulieu too as few words about.
If is not locked, are the XXXX (assuming it's not Ford  ;D) for a 4-letter word (not number)?

(BTW. I doubt it's from 1955... ;))

Both Quattroruote and TAM reports 1965.

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Re: THOR # 3
« Reply #41 on: October 23, 2012, 07:19:11 AM »
1965 would work also, looking at some more photos of off road vehicles of that era.
Was my "translation" correct of the origin of the designation "Tipo 55"??
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Re: THOR # 3
« Reply #42 on: October 23, 2012, 04:19:41 PM »
Yes, the article suggests that the Type 55 stands for the year it was introduced.

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Re: THOR # 3
« Reply #43 on: October 23, 2012, 05:09:34 PM »
infact the article says that!
it was an error considering what Bill wrote about the Ford engine
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Re: THOR # 3
« Reply #44 on: October 24, 2012, 03:51:22 PM »
so one point to PJ!
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