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Puzzles, Games and Name That Car => Solved AutoPuzzles => 2012 => Topic started by: pnegyesi on September 18, 2012, 07:04:32 AM
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Please identify this bus for a point: chassis, coachbuilder and year when it was built are necessary
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Hi Pal:
Got to start somewhere.
Scania-Vabis maybe an 850 model, maybe Norge coachbuilder unknown at this point.
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Hi
Related to Scandinavia - that's all I can tell you. Otherwise completely wrong
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Hi Pal:
Hmm.......... sure looked typically Scania in the front but maybe it was the Swedish bicycle rack that fooled me.
So I can carry on, a Volvo then perhaps?
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absolutely not
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Hi Pal:
Well, perhaps I have to change my mode of operation here.
As I posted earlier on the Forum, I normally try to not to take the "20 Questions" approach
but it seems to be acceptable here even looking at the professional level participants.
If the Scandinavian connection has to do with the chassis, we are then pretty much left
with Sisu of Finland. Shall I pursue that possibility or am I totally off the mark??
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well, who said that it is about the chassis :)? It is not a Sisu
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Well, Pal, I have chased that "nose" through several countries and I try to never give up.
This is probably not close to the answer, but the nose is very similar to
the French Matford F 917 series.
If that is completely incorrect, perhaps you can give a further tip.
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it is too early for clues. But I am feeling generous: the chassis is not European
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Hi Pal:
Moving right along, thanks for the clue, that eliminates dozens of makers.
So, that would leave the UK and the US as donors for the chassis I guess.
I see nothing so far from the UK group that looks good so I concentrated on the US brands.
As the vehicle is LHD, that eliminates Sweden for that time period and leaves Danmark, Norway and Finland. Of those,
I would rather think Norway.
For the chassis, I am leaning for the moment towards the so called Chevrolet "Bulldog" COE chassis of the period 1937-1938 or 1939.
A fair number of these were built as busses and particularly for Norway. The nose of these Chevrolets mostly look similar
to your photo.
Over to you
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I am not commenting on the country, yet.
As for the chassis it is American, but not a Chevy
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Well, let's involve our experts
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Experts were not interested, how about our professionals?
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As the vehicle is LHD, that eliminates Sweden for that time period and leaves Danmark, Norway and Finland.
It's a common misconception that because they drove on the left in Sweden up to 1968 the cars were RHD. In fact none of them were, they were all LHD (even those imported from the UK), and although that also applied to commercial vehicles the exception was the buses which were RHD, so you are right in that it can't be Sweden as the door is on the right and the steering wheel is on the left!
So, is it from Finland?
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Is it from the Baltic states?
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Not from Finland or the Baltic states
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Greenland?
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Not from Finland or the Baltic states
Norway; White chassis?
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Not from Greenland.
American chassis - not a White.
And coachbuilder is from Norway
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Mack chassis?
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Coachwork by Anco?
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Not a Mack chassis and not an Anco body
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Body by Norsk Flyindustri?
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Ford chassis?
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Body by Johs. Olsen ?
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Not a Ford chassis and not from the two coachbuilders mentioned
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International chassis?
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International Harvester 1948 with body by Bjarne Berg Karrosfabrik.
One of three IH chassis bodied by the above with slightly different styling.
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And eventually Bill found it first! Sorry Carnut.
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Thanks Pal:
I now know more about Norwegian bus history than I ever needed to know. :)
On the other hand, it gave me a good opportunity to practice my Norwegian
language skills which were very rusty after 35 years. I also was able to
add several dozen more "American Cars Used Overseas" busses and car based
busses to my photo files.
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Well, that's a usual side effect here - you learn a lot more than you originally wanted to :)