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Solved -PJ165- T.E.L. electric
« on: June 14, 2009, 05:12:45 PM »
Strightly to the Pros...
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Re: PJ - 165
« Reply #1 on: June 14, 2009, 05:20:09 PM »
Looks to me like an Opperman.
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Re: PJ - 165
« Reply #2 on: June 14, 2009, 05:35:01 PM »
This was the easy part...even if Opperman is not mentioned in my source, from the pictures of this car this was obviously realised from one of this kit cars...but this one has a name and a particularity....

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Re: PJ - 165
« Reply #3 on: June 15, 2009, 04:02:16 AM »
Normally the Oppermann Unicars hood wasn't to open.... Did you blacken the front plate or is it an intake? That would indicate the builder mounted the engine at the front..

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Re: PJ - 165
« Reply #4 on: June 15, 2009, 05:26:40 AM »
I blacken the plate and the car's name on the logo...

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Re: PJ - 165
« Reply #5 on: June 20, 2009, 11:19:05 PM »
This model was the Model "T" Unicar, designed by Laurie Bond and built between 1956 and 1959.The other model was the Stirling,but I don“t believe that“s the car.

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Re: PJ - 165
« Reply #6 on: June 21, 2009, 05:53:56 AM »
This car has a different name on the logo and a different particularity.
Opperman's cars were also sold as kit-cars, so the builder of this car used that body-kit for this one.

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Re: PJ - 165
« Reply #7 on: July 24, 2009, 09:21:12 AM »
Sterling?
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Re: PJ - 165
« Reply #8 on: July 24, 2009, 02:32:54 PM »
Not Sterling...

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Re: PJ - 165
« Reply #9 on: August 25, 2009, 09:07:13 AM »
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Re: PJ - 165
« Reply #10 on: August 25, 2009, 09:22:33 AM »
Some facts:
1- Opperman's car were also sold in kit form.
2- This one is very likely an Unicar T., even if it is not reported in my source.
3- This car has a name on the logo (that I blurried away) that is not Opperman, Unicar or Sterling.
4. This car has got a 'special feature', not so extraordinary, but not in the Opperman style.

I'm looking for the name of this car, and this special feature.
Normally the Oppermann Unicars hood wasn't to open...
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Re: PJ - 165
« Reply #11 on: August 25, 2009, 09:42:21 AM »
Is it electric?
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Re: PJ - 165
« Reply #12 on: August 25, 2009, 09:43:14 AM »
That "detail" was a trunk in the front?

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Re: PJ - 165
« Reply #13 on: August 25, 2009, 09:53:32 AM »
Not that, but....
Is it electric?
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Re: PJ - 165
« Reply #14 on: October 11, 2009, 10:43:18 AM »
A 3-letter name.

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Re: PJ - 165
« Reply #15 on: October 13, 2009, 08:16:15 AM »
EKR?  :lmao:
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Re: PJ - 165
« Reply #16 on: October 13, 2009, 10:19:29 AM »
Not EKR (that stands for?)

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Re: PJ - 165
« Reply #17 on: October 17, 2009, 01:53:59 PM »
2 of this letters may be found following the info you already have....

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Re: PJ - 165
« Reply #18 on: October 30, 2009, 11:12:01 AM »
ERV? For Electric R... Vehicle? ??? ::)
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Re: PJ - 165
« Reply #19 on: October 30, 2009, 12:05:45 PM »
Not ERV, but there is an  'E' there.

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Re: PJ - 165
« Reply #20 on: November 07, 2009, 08:06:20 AM »
TEL?

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Re: PJ - 165
« Reply #21 on: November 07, 2009, 08:55:28 AM »
Yes!
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Re: Solved -PJ165- T.E.L. electric
« Reply #22 on: November 08, 2009, 04:24:17 AM »
It wasn't a guess (it would have been very lucky), the car is featured in Practical Classics Magazine.

Built in Folkestone Kent in 1959, I'm not sure if the car had a model name.

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Re: Solved -PJ165- T.E.L. electric
« Reply #23 on: November 08, 2009, 04:28:36 AM »
Are there the same pictures?
The article I have is a bit vague on the car, does your one refer to Opperman?

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Re: Solved -PJ165- T.E.L. electric
« Reply #24 on: November 08, 2009, 08:18:04 AM »
There's not much written in Practical Classics about this car, one very small photo (different to yours) and no reference to Opperman.

I have found it on the internet too, on a photography website, six good photos (again different) but not much information about it.