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Solved - NEH 1741: Chapron Renault Dauphine Racing - 1958
« on: April 13, 2012, 10:29:55 AM »
What's this car, who built it and when - for 1 point?

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Re: NEH 1741
« Reply #1 on: April 20, 2012, 04:33:56 AM »
Experts?
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Re: NEH 1741
« Reply #2 on: April 20, 2012, 05:03:47 AM »
Renault Racing by Chapron '58?

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Re: NEH 1741
« Reply #3 on: April 20, 2012, 05:36:54 AM »
Renault Racing by Chapron '58?

Right so far, but there's a word missing I believe!
It's a Renault ********** Racing by Chapron '58; what's the missing word?
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Re: NEH 1741
« Reply #4 on: April 20, 2012, 06:53:48 AM »
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Mouette?

EDIT: Coupé :o Racing

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Re: NEH 1741
« Reply #5 on: April 20, 2012, 07:26:55 AM »
:scratch:

Mouette?

EDIT: Coupé :o Racing

That isn't what I was looking for, no.
What model of Renault is this car based on?
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Re: NEH 1741
« Reply #6 on: April 20, 2012, 09:39:53 AM »
Till what moment it is locked?

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Re: NEH 1741
« Reply #7 on: April 20, 2012, 10:04:59 AM »
That's a Floride

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Re: NEH 1741
« Reply #8 on: April 20, 2012, 10:25:57 AM »
Till what moment it is locked?
That's a Floride

It's actually still locked for Hondast until his next reply since I asked him specifically the question.
Floride is not actually the answer I'm looking for..
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Re: NEH 1741
« Reply #9 on: April 20, 2012, 11:03:37 AM »
Dauphine or 5CV?

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Re: NEH 1741
« Reply #10 on: April 20, 2012, 12:48:53 PM »
Dauphine or 5CV?

Renault Dauphine Racing it is (or so I believe..)
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Re: Solved - NEH 1741: Chapron Renault Dauphine Racing - 1958
« Reply #11 on: April 26, 2012, 05:34:47 AM »
I say again that's a Floride

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Re: Solved - NEH 1741: Chapron Renault Dauphine Racing - 1958
« Reply #12 on: April 26, 2012, 05:47:16 AM »
And that is still wrong, because the Renault Floride made its first public appearance in March 1958 as a prototype in Geneva, production started after the Paris salon in autumn 1958. The Chapron Mouette appeared in October 1956 as a coupe and a convertible. The convertible was renamed in 1957 to Racing. In 1958 it received the twin headlights. Production ended in 1960.

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Re: Solved - NEH 1741: Chapron Renault Dauphine Racing - 1958
« Reply #13 on: April 26, 2012, 06:11:45 AM »
And that is still wrong, because the Renault Floride made its first public appearance in March 1958 as a prototype in Geneva, production started after the Paris salon in autumn 1958. The Chapron Mouette appeared in October 1956 as a coupe and a convertible. The convertible was renamed in 1957 to Racing. In 1958 it received the twin headlights. Production ended in 1960.

Quite so.
The Floride itself was of course also based on the Dauphine
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Renault Dauphine Racing by Chapron, 1959
« Reply #14 on: February 21, 2015, 02:55:33 AM »
Who knows this car?
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Re: grob 2015.02.21 (05)
« Reply #15 on: February 28, 2015, 05:57:42 PM »
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Re: grob 2015.02.21 (05)
« Reply #16 on: February 28, 2015, 06:42:04 PM »
Could it be a initial prototype of Piero Frua for the Renault Floride?

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Re: grob 2015.02.21 (05)
« Reply #17 on: February 28, 2015, 06:48:47 PM »
Renault is correct.

Dauphine is correct.

Frua? Not sure if it was his design - I only know the coachbuilding company.

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I've found that Renault asked Ghia to develop that project, but due to incompatibilities whit some of their customers, as Wolksvagen, they derivated the design to Frua, maybe this was a initial design of Ghia.

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I do not know if it was an in-house design or maybe done by Ghia.
The coachbuilding company itself was not Ghia.

And I am looking for their name...

Three more tries for you.

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MY first try will be returning to France, what about CHAPRON?

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Yes!

It is indeed a Chapron creation.

And it has a name - which one?

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Step by step. In October 1956, at its presentation at the 1957 Salon de l'Automobile de Paris, was named as the Mouette cabriolet, but in 1957 its name was changed to Racing. 

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Now it´s your point!

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Re: Renault Dauphine Racing by Chapron, 1959
« Reply #24 on: October 28, 2015, 12:47:35 PM »
Rear view:

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