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Re: Big Bus Puzzle No. 3
« Reply #125 on: February 17, 2012, 10:38:51 AM »
No8: ACF-Brill trolley?
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Re: Big Bus Puzzle No. 3
« Reply #126 on: February 17, 2012, 10:54:31 AM »
No8: ACF-Brill trolley?

 :drink: Indeed it is!

That's 1 point.

Now, for the other - operated by whom and where?
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Re: Big Bus Puzzle No. 3
« Reply #127 on: February 17, 2012, 11:13:39 AM »
Where : Krug Park, St. Joseph, Missouri.

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Re: Big Bus Puzzle No. 3
« Reply #128 on: February 17, 2012, 11:26:47 AM »
Where : Krug Park, St. Joseph, Missouri.

St. Joseph MO is correct!
Operated by whom?
Dating from when?
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Re: Big Bus Puzzle No. 3
« Reply #129 on: February 17, 2012, 11:51:04 AM »
Please, unlock. The year should be 1932.

Number #34 : It´s a grocery bus?

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Re: Big Bus Puzzle No. 3
« Reply #130 on: February 17, 2012, 12:06:23 PM »
I think No8 was opereated by St. Joseph Railway, Light, Heat & Power Company. And it is not an ACF-Brill, which was a post-war company, but just a Brill (which in 1944 became ACF-Brill)
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Re: Big Bus Puzzle No. 3
« Reply #131 on: February 17, 2012, 02:53:29 PM »
Please, unlock. The year should be 1932.

Number #34 : It´s a grocery bus?

It's not what I have it as, no.
I hope my info is right...
I have #8 as simply "1930s" so you could be right there.
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Re: Big Bus Puzzle No. 3
« Reply #132 on: February 17, 2012, 02:55:15 PM »
I think No8 was opereated by St. Joseph Railway, Light, Heat & Power Company. And it is not an ACF-Brill, which was a post-war company, but just a Brill (which in 1944 became ACF-Brill)

Yes!
So that's another point for you and thank you for enlightening us on the ACF-Brill info.
As a matter of fact it was only described as a Brill, but then when searching for other Brill info they always seemed to be called ACF-Brill so I assumed that was right for all of them.  However, we know now!
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Re: Big Bus Puzzle No. 3
« Reply #133 on: February 17, 2012, 03:42:46 PM »
No34: a shot in the dark. Was it used by Perfecta Cars, the touring company of Jozef van Hool?
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Re: Big Bus Puzzle No. 3
« Reply #134 on: February 17, 2012, 07:17:22 PM »
No34: a shot in the dark. Was it used by Perfecta Cars, the touring company of Jozef van Hool?

I'm afraid I don't know.
The site wasn't as specific as that - it just described it as a Van Hool ******* Bus!
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Re: Big Bus Puzzle No. 3
« Reply #135 on: February 17, 2012, 10:23:22 PM »
#34 : a Russian site tells that this bus was built in 1952 on a Dodge chassis

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Re: Big Bus Puzzle No. 3
« Reply #136 on: February 18, 2012, 08:20:15 AM »
#34 : a Russian site tells that this bus was built in 1952 on a Dodge chassis

Thanks for that.
Wendax already got that though in his reply #111..!
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Re: Big Bus Puzzle No. 3
« Reply #137 on: February 29, 2012, 02:54:43 PM »
#19 : I wonder if this bus was bodied by Brasinca.  Indeed it appears on a site where Brasinca is cited, but the photograph doesn't identify it as a Brasinca.  In this site, we find the following descriptions under the title "Novos Passos - Carrocerias Brasinca e Marcopolo"  :

Brasinca
Fundada em 1949, a Brasinca S/A- Indústria Nacional de Carrocerias de Aço montou sua sede em São Caetano, SP e a seguinte diretoria: Sady Shueler Moura (presidente) Gastão Schueler Moura (vice-presidente).
Marcopolo
Fundada em 1949, no dia 6 de agosto, pelos irmãos Dorval Antônio, Nelson, João e Doracy Luiz Nicola, a Carrocerias Nicola Manufaturas Metálicas S/A transformou-se, em 1974, em Marcopolo S/A Carrocerias e Ônibus. Está localizada em Caxias do Sul, RS, a pouco mais de 100 km de Porto Alegre.

However, I found on another site the same bus identified as a Marcopolo bodied by Nicola.  It seems to have been the first bus built by Marcopolo.  The description of the company follows :

MARCOPOLO fue fundado por Nicola & Cia Ltda. en 1949, una compañía que entonces tenía 8 socios y 15 empleados. La producción era completamente artesanal.
Era producida en su totalidad de forma manual


On a third site showing the same bus, I found this :

Figuras 119 y 120: También en Brasil, la industria carrocera se basó, en esos años, en los diseños norteamericanos. Las imágenes muestran buses carrozados por Nicola, antecesora de Marcopolo en 1950 y 1953. (Ônibus, W.Corrêa Stiel)

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Re: Big Bus Puzzle No. 3
« Reply #138 on: February 29, 2012, 03:06:22 PM »
That deserves another point and I'll question it in the answers too!
Looks like you're probably right.
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Re: Big Bus Puzzle No. 3
« Reply #139 on: March 27, 2012, 11:28:10 AM »
I don't think there will be any more answers to this puzzle, so I'm moving it to solved.
The answer to the one outstanding question is that No. 34 was a van Hool school bus, according to my information!
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Re: Big Bus Puzzle No. 3
« Reply #140 on: February 27, 2014, 03:49:59 PM »
A nice picture of #14, the Harmening Clubbus:

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Re: Big Bus Puzzle No. 3
« Reply #141 on: June 07, 2014, 01:52:39 AM »
And another one: