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Solved - NEH 1507: Witton Tiger
« on: January 31, 2012, 09:14:52 AM »
Identify this car for 1 point (no, it's not a repost!):

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Re: NEH 1507
« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2012, 06:14:28 AM »
Experts?
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Re: NEH 1507
« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2012, 12:33:59 PM »
One of YKCs models.

I would guess british kit car from the 80s judging by the wheels
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Re: NEH 1507
« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2012, 02:44:45 PM »
One of YKCs models.

I would guess british kit car from the 80s judging by the wheels

Nothing to do with YKC.
When it transferred to GB (which it did eventually) it was known by a different name from the one I'm looking for, but the puzzle car was not a British marque!
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Re: NEH 1507
« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2012, 01:39:17 PM »
martin tilbury?

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Re: NEH 1507
« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2012, 01:54:51 PM »
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Re: NEH 1507
« Reply #6 on: February 22, 2012, 04:24:25 AM »
Isn't this is a Thoroughbred Monroe ( USA ) or the UK-equivalent, the Merlin Monro ?

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Re: NEH 1507
« Reply #7 on: February 22, 2012, 08:27:13 AM »
Isn't this is a Thoroughbred Monroe ( USA ) or the UK-equivalent, the Merlin Monro ?

It's not a Thoroughbred Monroe, but it is connected to Merlin somehow...
I'll lock it for you for 24 hours to come up with the connection and hence what this is.
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Re: NEH 1507
« Reply #8 on: February 22, 2012, 09:43:21 AM »
I know that the first few cars were made by Leonard Witton under his own name. Is this a 'Witton Roadster', then?

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Re: NEH 1507
« Reply #9 on: February 22, 2012, 11:02:47 AM »
I know that the first few cars were made by Leonard Witton under his own name. Is this a 'Witton Roadster', then?

It's a "Witton" all right.
But what's its correct model name?
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Re: NEH 1507
« Reply #10 on: February 22, 2012, 11:38:45 AM »
Then it has to be a Witton Tiger!

I did know that Leonard Witton build a few cars under his own name before Thoroughbred put it in production, but I didn't know it was called the 'Tiger', I had to look that bit up on the internet. And you know what the funny part of it all is? I've found a link to a book that I allready have (some people will know the book I'm talking about). Sometimes I think it's about time I start re-reading all my books ... ;D


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Re: NEH 1507
« Reply #11 on: February 22, 2012, 11:40:04 AM »
Then it has to be a Witton Tiger!

I did know that Leonard Witton build a few cars under his own name before Thoroughbred put it in production, but I didn't know it was called the 'Tiger', I had to look that bit up on the internet. And you know what the funny part of it all is? I've found a link to a book that I allready have (some people will know the book I'm talking about). Sometimes I think it's about time I start re-reading all my books ... ;D



That's it.
The first few cars were built in the USA before production moved to the UK and it became the Merlin.

The Merlin sports car began when a British designer, "Leonard Witton" took his project to America. His objective was to capture features of Great Britain's most famous sports car; The Roadster". His design used the Beetle flat-four at the rear and he named it the Witton "Tiger".
 
In 1975 Thoroughbred Cars Inc, of Redmond, Washington, accepted custom orders for the frame and body, Thoroughbred made their own box-section frames, and these 2-seaters could take VW or Porsche engines at the rear, Ford or GM V-6's and small-block V-8's at the front, or a Mazda Wankel at either end.
In 1980 the firm also announced a conventionally-engineered Mercedes-Benz 540K cabriolet replica with a choice of 4-, 6-, or 8-cylinder engines.
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In 1978 a British Engineer, "Peter Gowing" sold his business which specialised in Volkswagen body conversions and VW accessory sales, and during 1980 he imported two "Tiger" body shells into the UK.
Using one of the shells a VW based car was manufactured and was given the model name "Merlin TA" (Trans-axle).
 
There was only one example produced and after extensive advertising the VW based car was eventually sold and the original Witton shell was restyled.
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Using the second of the shells, Gowing designed a chassis utilising Ford Cortina running gear.
Based in Essex under the company name "Thoroughbred Cars", the Gowing model was launched in 1980 and was called the "Merlin TF" (Type Ford) it now had a Ford pinto engine in the front, there was a total of approximately three hundred cars produced when production ended in 1984.
 
Thoroughbred cars also launched the "Monro" in 1983.
Thoroughbred cars ceased trading in 1984.
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In 1985 under the name "Paris Cars" Peter Gowing renamed the "Monro" the "Merlin Plus Two" which effectively replaced the "TF".
 
Both the chassis and rear suspension had to be redesigned and the rear body work was squared up to free some space for a rear seat.
In 1986 the Merlin gained a German TUV approval.
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Paris cars also produced a two seater version of the "Merlin Plus Two" called the "Merlin Two Seater".
In 1992 the Paris Cars introduced a Ford Sierra-based chassis option, while still offering the Cortina option the Sierra-based Chassis accounted for approximately 75 % of the sales.
The Sierra-based Merlin was given the name "Merlin iRS"
 
Lotus had some input on the chassis design after some criticism.
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With approximately just over 700 Merlin's produced in total (excluding the "TF") in May 1998 Paris Cars ended production of the Merlin.
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