Author Topic: Solved - MJW #370 - Sports Racing Part 3 (Read 21902 times)

D-type · « **Reply #25 on:** April 29, 2011, 05:50:48 PM »

A long shot: is #14 Alberto del Campo's 1952 del Campo Special

woodinsight · « **Reply #26 on:** April 30, 2011, 12:32:49 AM »

Quote from: D-type on April 29, 2011, 05:50:48 PM

A long shot: is #14 Alberto del Campo's 1952 del Campo Special

Sorry but not that one

barrett · « **Reply #27 on:** April 30, 2011, 02:35:26 AM »

How much are you looking for for #18? The name of the guy who built it? I can remember what it is based around and that's about it (I can also remember what year it appeared in a popular magazine's 'mystery car' competition..)

Tackitt · « **Reply #28 on:** May 01, 2011, 02:46:48 PM »

I have run down about six different sources, all of whom call this car the 1951 barquette PANHARD X86 Dyna 610 cc as raced at Le Mans that year and nothing else.
Am I missing something in the name?

woodinsight · « **Reply #29 on:** May 01, 2011, 03:27:11 PM »

Quote from: barrett on April 30, 2011, 02:35:26 AM

How much are you looking for for #18? The name of the guy who built it? I can remember what it is based around and that's about it (I can also remember what year it appeared in a popular magazine's 'mystery car' competition..)

No I'm not looking for the name of the guy who built it.
I require the make/model and also the year if you have it.

woodinsight · « **Reply #30 on:** May 01, 2011, 03:35:10 PM »

Quote from: Tackitt on April 29, 2011, 05:47:40 PM

Is number #26 the 1948 C.T.E. DKW?

Not that one

woodinsight · « **Reply #31 on:** May 01, 2011, 03:42:39 PM »

Quote from: Tackitt on May 01, 2011, 02:46:48 PM

I have run down about six different sources, all of whom call this car the 1951 barquette PANHARD X86 Dyna 610 cc as raced at Le Mans that year and nothing else.
Am I missing something in the name?

Tackitt, your reply made me carry out more research on this car.
I will come back to you in full shortly but my initial search indicates that this car never competed at Le Mans and wasn't even built in France (despite the French registration). It is however based on a Panhard Dyna X86.
I have photos of all cars that competed at Le Mans and I believe it is similar to one of them (I'll post the image when I get a chance to scan it) and we can compare them.

woodinsight · « **Reply #32 on:** May 03, 2011, 03:58:11 AM »

Quote from: woodinsight on May 01, 2011, 03:42:39 PM

Quote from: Tackitt on May 01, 2011, 02:46:48 PM
I have run down about six different sources, all of whom call this car the 1951 barquette PANHARD X86 Dyna 610 cc as raced at Le Mans that year and nothing else.
Am I missing something in the name?
Tackitt, your reply made me carry out more research on this car.
I will come back to you in full shortly but my initial search indicates that this car never competed at Le Mans and wasn't even built in France (despite the French registration). It is however based on a Panhard Dyna X86.
I have photos of all cars that competed at Le Mans and I believe it is similar to one of them (I'll post the image when I get a chance to scan it) and we can compare them.

After some more research, I can tell you no similar Panhard competed at Le Mans in 1951. Those that did compete that year were quite different to the puzzle car.
However there was a similar car at Le Mans in 1950 (see below) that perhaps the puzzle car was modeled on.

My book on Panhard Dyna history shows the puzzle car with a caption that states the car was built in another country and competed in local races there. I presume the car is now in France hence the registration. (see below)
This car was known by a separate name.

woodinsight · « **Reply #33 on:** May 03, 2011, 05:56:34 AM »

#05 is locked for Tackitt at the moment

woodinsight · « **Reply #34 on:** May 03, 2011, 07:38:20 AM »

Mmmmm.....only four correct answers so far.
I think it's time for the Pros to solve a few more

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #35 on:** May 03, 2011, 09:12:19 AM »

#6 - Crusader 1964
#14 - Cassidy MG special
#26 - MAP 1950
#28 - JRM
#29 - Repco?

woodinsight · « **Reply #36 on:** May 03, 2011, 09:25:47 AM »

Quote from: Paul Jaray on May 03, 2011, 09:12:19 AM

#6 - Crusader 1964
#14 - Cassidy MG special
#26 - MAP 1950
#28 - JRM
#29 - Repco?

#6 - yes
#14 - yes
#26 - yes
#28 - yes
#29 - no

Four points for you PJ - well done

faksta · « **Reply #37 on:** May 03, 2011, 12:10:41 PM »

#8 - Lebacq DL18
#10 - Havas - Porsche
#18 - Sauter - DKW
#19 - Sail - Fiat 1100

faksta · « **Reply #38 on:** May 03, 2011, 12:35:30 PM »

#15 - maybe one of Heve cars? Very familiar picture...

woodinsight · « **Reply #39 on:** May 03, 2011, 01:13:25 PM »

Quote from: faksta on May 03, 2011, 12:10:41 PM

#8 - Lebacq DL18
#10 - Havas - Porsche
#18 - Sauter - DKW
#19 - Sail - Fiat 1100

#8 - yes
#10 - yes
#18 - no - the car is of European origin but is competing on the other side of the world - Sauter is not the name I have for it.
#19 - yes

woodinsight · « **Reply #40 on:** May 03, 2011, 01:15:32 PM »

Quote from: faksta on May 03, 2011, 12:35:30 PM

#15 - maybe one of Heve cars? Very familiar picture...

Not Heve but from the same continent

faksta · « **Reply #41 on:** May 03, 2011, 01:18:05 PM »

#18...strange. If you google Sauter - DKW you'll get at least two sources with two different photos, one of which is a Sauter dedicated website

As for #15, probably Argentinian (guess you'd say 'same country' if it was Brasilian)?

woodinsight · « **Reply #42 on:** May 03, 2011, 01:23:36 PM »

Quote from: faksta on May 03, 2011, 01:18:05 PM

#18...strange. If you google Sauter - DKW you'll get at least two sources with two different photos, one of which is a Sauter dedicated website

As for #15, probably Argentinian (guess you'd say 'same country' if it was Brasilian)?

Let me look into #18 by google as the puzzle car comes from a Far Eastern source. Maybe it was a Sauter before it arrived there?
#15 is from Argentina.......

faksta · « **Reply #43 on:** May 03, 2011, 01:28:31 PM »

You probably are looking for Brugger-DKW for #18? Brugger built chassis, Sauter made body, so both names are in use.

woodinsight · « **Reply #44 on:** May 03, 2011, 01:45:58 PM »

Quote from: faksta on May 03, 2011, 01:28:31 PM

You probably are looking for Brugger-DKW for #18? Brugger built chassis, Sauter made body, so both names are in use.

I can see what you mean - the car appears to have a Sauter body but is right-hand drive.
I don't know about the Brugger-DKW but the puzzle car is from the Far East and is named after a well-known German name with a model name 1000RS and dates from 1959.
Any more thoughts? I'll lock it for you anyway at the moment.

faksta · « **Reply #45 on:** May 03, 2011, 02:09:02 PM »

Melkus? Would be rather wild, as I have never seen anything like this from them... (and well, if it is the name, I would make a supposition that it could have been a mistake or a typo, no offense)

faksta · « **Reply #46 on:** May 03, 2011, 03:04:48 PM »

#7 is also very familiar. Is it Riley powered, by any chance?

woodinsight · « **Reply #47 on:** May 03, 2011, 04:44:06 PM »

Quote from: faksta on May 03, 2011, 02:09:02 PM

Melkus? Would be rather wild, as I have never seen anything like this from them... (and well, if it is the name, I would make a supposition that it could have been a mistake or a typo, no offense)

No, not Melkus but it is a German make

woodinsight · « **Reply #48 on:** May 03, 2011, 04:45:38 PM »

Quote from: faksta on May 03, 2011, 03:04:48 PM

#7 is also very familiar. Is it Riley powered, by any chance?

British but not Riley powered

woodinsight · « **Reply #49 on:** May 03, 2011, 04:49:12 PM »

I will start adding some clues in a few days if response is slow

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Author Topic: Solved - MJW #370 - Sports Racing Part 3 (Read 21902 times)