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Solved - MJW #865 - Riley RM Sports SP6 Ramsay 1952/83
« on: March 07, 2012, 06:28:41 AM »
Yes it's a xxxxx but can you also identify who converted this sports car and when?
One point for the full (and correct) answer.

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Re: MJW #865
« Reply #1 on: March 13, 2012, 01:12:07 PM »
Experts?

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Re: MJW #865
« Reply #2 on: March 15, 2012, 03:36:32 AM »
Riley meets BMW 328?

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Re: MJW #865
« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2012, 04:22:49 AM »
Riley meets BMW 328?
Riley yes but no BMW parts involved AFAIK....

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Re: MJW #865
« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2012, 05:17:46 AM »
OK, just thought it might have been a Sbarro 328 replica of a BMW 328 pre war roadster fitted with a post-war Riley 2 1/2 litre noce to relive the pre-war Riley Sprite which was set up as competition for the pre-war BMW 328 anyway. Are you sure this has actually been built? ;)

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Re: MJW #865
« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2012, 05:58:41 AM »
OK, just thought it might have been a Sbarro 328 replica of a BMW 328 pre war roadster fitted with a post-war Riley 2 1/2 litre noce to relive the pre-war Riley Sprite which was set up as competition for the pre-war BMW 328 anyway. Are you sure this has actually been built? ;)
Yes, I see what you mean but this car exists - see another photo below

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Re: MJW #865
« Reply #6 on: March 15, 2012, 12:55:33 PM »
The wheel also attributed to my confusion. It must be: 1952 Riley SP6 Roadster although Riley built outstanding sports cars before World War II, it abandoned this field after the war. In the early 1980s Mr. Dennis Ramsay of Sterling, Scotland decided to rectify this omission. The skilled Ramsay earned competition fame with his Daimler-V8-powered HAR sports-racer. In 1983 the motor engineer completed this unique 2.5-litre sports Riley. The car's RM-series basis dates from 1952. Having shortened the chassis by 24 inches to 95 inches, the same as the BMW 328 that inspired his project, Mr. Ramsay underslung it at the rear and fitted Girling hydraulic brakes. Original Riley grille, wings, bonnet and scuttle are retained, albeit revised to suit their new environment in the car that Ramsay dubbed his Project SP6. All new panels are aluminium, including the tail, shaped to evoke the pre-war Sprite style. Lightness was a priority with drilling of the side members and wheels, the latter aiding brake cooling. Ultra-light and with 100 bhp available from its four-cylinder 2.5-litre twin-cam Riley engine, the RMS is a vivid performer that suggests what Riley might have achieved, had it chosen to build a car for this category. Often mistaken for a Riley works prototype and featured in ‘The Automobile’ and ‘Riley Record’, HFV 554 has participated in VSCC and Aviva Classic runs. Having toured to Ireland and Burgundy, Ramsay’s SP6 has proved a quick and reliable driver with first-class weather protection and capacious boot capacity. And it is, in fact, behind the wheel that this special roadster comes to life, with an exceptionally stable ride and a startling turn of speed.

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Re: MJW #865
« Reply #7 on: March 21, 2012, 04:34:59 AM »
??  ;)

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Re: MJW #865
« Reply #8 on: March 21, 2012, 04:51:34 AM »
??  ;)
Apologies for the late reply (see Slow Answers for the reason).
Yes, you are correct.
Dennis Ramsay came from Stirling (not Sterling) and he also built the Ramsay-HAR sports car that appeared on AutoPuzzles some time ago.
So another point for you.

Here's another photo of the car with Karl Ludvigsen at the wheel -

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Ubb172 Riley SP6 roadster modified by Dennis Ramsay in 1953/1983
« Reply #9 on: July 06, 2014, 08:01:29 AM »
What is this convertible, from when and by whom ?
« Last Edit: August 19, 2014, 10:10:25 AM by mekubb »

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Re: Ubb172
« Reply #10 on: July 06, 2014, 01:26:16 PM »
Armstrong Siddeley base?

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Re: Ubb172
« Reply #11 on: July 06, 2014, 04:53:10 PM »

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Re: Ubb172
« Reply #12 on: July 07, 2014, 07:20:21 AM »
1950s Bentley underneath?

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Re: Ubb172
« Reply #13 on: July 07, 2014, 09:31:52 AM »
No Bentley connection

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Re: Ubb172
« Reply #14 on: July 07, 2014, 10:07:16 AM »
Riley base ?
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Re: Ubb172
« Reply #15 on: July 07, 2014, 10:35:20 AM »
Riley is correct, need some more info for a lock though !

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Re: Ubb172
« Reply #16 on: July 07, 2014, 11:41:23 AM »
1953 Riley RM 2.5 modified by Dennis Ramsay, owned by Karl Ludvigsen.

I've also seen it referred to as 1954 Riley Ramsay SP6
« Last Edit: July 07, 2014, 11:49:33 AM by oko94 »

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Re: Ubb172
« Reply #17 on: July 07, 2014, 11:48:50 AM »
1953 Riley 2.5 modified by Dennis Ramsay, owned by Karl Ludvigsen
Sorry D-Type but oko94 found the car, and rather quickly as well ! It was indeed modified by Scottish engineer Dennis Ramsay in 1983. Here is a front view, not a bad looking car

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Re: Ubb172 Riley SP6 roadster modified by Dennis Ramsay in 1953/1983
« Reply #18 on: July 07, 2014, 12:26:30 PM »
Finding a short wheelbase Riley roadster was fairly easy indeed. I agree it's better looking than the regular long wheelbase roadster.

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Re: Ubb172 Riley SP6 roadster modified by Dennis Ramsay in 1953/1983
« Reply #19 on: July 07, 2014, 01:37:39 PM »
What's the "SP6" bit of the heading mean?
I don't recognise it as part of an RM Riley designation.
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Re: Ubb172 Riley SP6 roadster modified by Dennis Ramsay in 1953/1983
« Reply #20 on: July 07, 2014, 02:13:44 PM »
What's the "SP6" bit of the heading mean?
I don't recognise it as part of an RM Riley designation.
That's what my source called it, so I put it in the heading. Could be a RM though

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Re: Ubb172 Riley SP6/RME roadster modified by Dennis Ramsay in 1953/1983
« Reply #21 on: July 07, 2014, 06:34:16 PM »
What's the "SP6" bit of the heading mean?
I don't recognise it as part of an RM Riley designation.
That's what my source called it, so I put it in the heading. Could be a RM though
Yes I see it appeared in the H&H auction details as "SP6" but with no explanation - perhaps it was just that it was the 6th Special Mr Ramsay had made.
The chassis number shows it to have been an RME as one might expect.
« Last Edit: July 07, 2014, 06:45:56 PM by mekubb »
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Re: Solved - MJW #865 - Riley RM Sports SP6 Ramsay 1952/83
« Reply #22 on: March 10, 2015, 12:24:56 PM »
Merged!
« Last Edit: March 10, 2015, 12:27:17 PM by Paul Jaray »