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Re: Going Underground
« Reply #25 on: December 05, 2012, 04:30:02 PM »
You are right with the station. I have only very limited information about British coachbuilders in general, but the one in question advertised as "Largest Motor Works in London". It existed for about 50 years, starting business with horsedrawn carriages.
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Re: Going Underground
« Reply #26 on: December 12, 2012, 02:33:56 AM »
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Re: Going Underground
« Reply #27 on: December 12, 2012, 06:38:43 AM »
Underground F - Milan Centrale Station and #8 - Carrozzeria Italo-Argentina, Milan.
Undergroung H - Altona? and #7 - Karosserie-Fabrik Bernhard Klein.
Underground I - Parc Départemental de Parilly Train Station and #3 - Berliet? by Achard, Fontanel & Cie - Lyon.
Underground J ( I presume it's a French location - Courbevoie?) and #9 - Carrosserie Alin, Liautard & Cie.
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Re: Going Underground
« Reply #28 on: December 12, 2012, 06:42:10 AM »
Quote from: Joćo on December 12, 2012, 06:38:43 AM
Underground F - Milan Centrale Station and #8 - Carrozzeria Italo-Argentina, Milan.
Correct!
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Re: Going Underground
« Reply #29 on: December 12, 2012, 10:49:32 AM »
I recognise Underground E as the Tyne and Wear Metro, which serves the areas around Newcastle and Sunderland in north-east England. That links to #10, a Rolls-Royce hearse by Northern Coachbuilders Limited of Spital Tongues, Newcastle upon Tyne. The company was better known for making buses and trucks.
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Re: Going Underground
« Reply #30 on: December 12, 2012, 01:42:31 PM »
Quote from: Joćo on December 12, 2012, 06:38:43 AM
Undergroung H - Altona? and #7 - Karosserie-Fabrik Bernhard Klein.
Underground I - Parc Départemental de Parilly Train Station and #3 - Berliet? by Achard, Fontanel & Cie - Lyon.
Underground J ( I presume it's a French location - Courbevoie?) and #9 - Carrosserie Alin, Liautard & Cie.
I'm quite impressed!
#7 is the Karosserie-Fabrik Bernhard Klein, which was in the city of Altona at that time. In 1937, Altona became a part of Hamburg, and H is the underground station Christuskirche which is the closest one to Klein's factory.

#3 is by Achard, Fontanel et Cie from Lyon, and you have identified I correctly.

#9 is from an Alin, Liautard et Cie ad. Since there is no Courbevoie metro station, I took the closest Parisian one, Pont de Levallois-Becon, which you correctly found as Underground J.
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Re: Going Underground
« Reply #31 on: December 12, 2012, 01:46:55 PM »
Quote from: Tom_I on December 12, 2012, 10:49:32 AM
I recognise Underground E as the Tyne and Wear Metro, which serves the areas around Newcastle and Sunderland in north-east England. That links to #10, a Rolls-Royce hearse by Northern Coachbuilders Limited of Spital Tongues, Newcastle upon Tyne. The company was better known for making buses and trucks.
Absolutely right!


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Re: Going Underground
« Reply #32 on: December 12, 2012, 03:39:42 PM »
Car number #4 - German coachbuilder? I can read "Karosserie R.? ........... Berlin.
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Re: Going Underground
« Reply #33 on: December 12, 2012, 03:41:17 PM »
Follow that path!
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Re: Going Underground
« Reply #34 on: December 12, 2012, 04:07:51 PM »
Roger that!

Rudolf Franke Karosserie-Fabrik from Berlin and underground C -  Berlin Train Station?
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Re: Going Underground
« Reply #35 on: December 12, 2012, 04:19:43 PM »
Yes, #4 is a Rudolf Franke body and C is the Berlin underground station Krumme Lanke.


That leaves coachbuilder #5 of which we already know that he was located near the Oval station in Kennington, London.
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Re: Going Underground
« Reply #36 on: December 18, 2012, 08:31:40 AM »
Quote from: Wendax on December 12, 2012, 04:19:43 PM
That leaves coachbuilder #5 of which we already know that he was located near the Oval station in Kennington, London.
Any ideas, folks? To be precise, the coachbuilder was located just 1.5 miles away from Oval station.
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Re: Going Underground
« Reply #37 on: December 18, 2012, 09:23:04 AM »
Coachwork by Mackenzie & Co. ?
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Re: Going Underground
« Reply #38 on: December 18, 2012, 09:31:37 AM »
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Re: Going Underground
« Reply #39 on: December 18, 2012, 11:29:49 AM »
It must be in a south-easterly direction from the Oval, otherwise there would be other underground stations that were nearer.

So somewhere like Peckham. There was a coachbuilder called E & H Hora Ltd, at Shenley Works, Peckham Road, at about the right sort of time.
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Re: Going Underground
« Reply #40 on: December 18, 2012, 02:41:08 PM »
Again a very nice sleuthing. Hora it is!
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Re: Going Underground
« Reply #41 on: December 18, 2012, 02:45:28 PM »
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