Author Topic: Zastava AR 55, ca. 1972 (Read 998 times)

grobmotorix · « **on:** November 29, 2012, 11:40:15 AM »

Who knows this car?

targhediferro · « **Reply #1 on:** November 30, 2012, 11:07:07 AM »

It's for sure a Fiat Campagnola base...very similar to the one that went from Turin to Cape Town in 1952

grobmotorix · « **Reply #2 on:** November 30, 2012, 06:22:15 PM »

It´s not really a Fiat (only by its origins...)

grobmotorix · « **Reply #3 on:** December 10, 2012, 03:13:24 PM »

I think it is time to move this up.

Bill Murray · « **Reply #4 on:** December 10, 2012, 03:49:49 PM »

Zastava Kampanjola?

grobmotorix · « **Reply #5 on:** December 10, 2012, 04:17:25 PM »

It is indeed a Zastava!

LOCKED for you for 24h.

Bill Murray · « **Reply #6 on:** December 10, 2012, 04:47:05 PM »

I am not too sure where to go from here.

I can verify at this point that it is indeed a Zastava Kampanjola, a station wagon.
I found the attached photo on a Serbian/Croatian site that shows essentially the same vehicle but with no details.
What more information am I searching for??

grobmotorix · « **Reply #7 on:** December 10, 2012, 05:19:09 PM »

Well, it had an official designation.

I will help you: it consists of 2 letters and 2 numbers...

Bill Murray · « **Reply #8 on:** December 10, 2012, 05:21:10 PM »

AR55?

??
I don't think they started as early as the AR51.

grobmotorix · « **Reply #9 on:** December 10, 2012, 05:26:53 PM »

That´s the name I have!

Your point.

als15 · « **Reply #10 on:** December 10, 2012, 05:52:44 PM »

Are you sure? AR55 means "Autovettura da Ricognizione tipo 1955" (patrol car type 1955) and is a designation according to the Italian Defense Ministry standard. IMO it applies only to the military version of the Fiat car.

AFAIK, the Zastava is called "Campagnola", same name as the civil Fiat-made model. However, both the Fiat and the Zastava were torpedoes. This closed version can be some Zastava-made special purpose or a coachbuilt car.

grobmotorix · « **Reply #11 on:** December 10, 2012, 06:07:10 PM »

I have it as "Fijat AR-55"-kapanjola...

RayTheRat · « **Reply #12 on:** December 10, 2012, 11:46:38 PM »

Do you perhaps have the original photo without the flying saucers? I'd sure like to see it if you do.

Thanks,

grobmotorix · « **Reply #13 on:** December 11, 2012, 01:27:01 AM »

Here you are:

Iluvatar · « **Reply #14 on:** December 11, 2012, 02:49:15 AM »

"Zastava 4WD Campagnola
This 4WD based on the Fiat Campagnola (AR-51, fitted with 1900cm3 engine from Fiat 1400), which followed the design of the original Willy's Jeep in using a front mounted engine, four wheel drive and an open bodywork. It was assembled by Zastava from 1955. All the parts were sent from Turin by train, with only final assembly carried out in Kragujevac. At that time, Campagnola was produced mainly for army purposes."

Iluvatar · « **Reply #15 on:** December 11, 2012, 02:55:34 AM »

Quote from: Iluvatar on December 11, 2012, 02:49:15 AM

"It was assembled by Zastava from 1955. All the parts were sent from Turin by train, with only final assembly carried out in Kragujevac. At that time, Campagnola was produced mainly for army purposes."

Maybe the version assembled by Zastava was the military AR and not the civilian Campagnola...

als15 · « **Reply #16 on:** December 11, 2012, 02:56:50 AM »

Quote from: Iluvatar on December 11, 2012, 02:49:15 AM

"Zastava 4WD Campagnola
This 4WD based on the Fiat Campagnola (AR-51, fitted with 1900cm3 engine from Fiat 1400), which followed the design of the original Willy's Jeep in using a front mounted engine, four wheel drive and an open bodywork. It was assembled by Zastava from 1955. All the parts were sent from Turin by train, with only final assembly carried out in Kragujevac. At that time, Campagnola was produced mainly for army purposes."

I agree. This should be the correct definition.
However, the Zastava version had open-body, like the Fiat ones. This doesn't look like a regular version.

thorax · « **Reply #17 on:** December 11, 2012, 05:19:50 AM »

Quote from: als15 on December 11, 2012, 02:56:50 AM

However, the Zastava version had open-body, like the Fiat ones. This doesn't look like a regular version.

I agree: it should be interesting to know the story of this particulary body

RayTheRat · « **Reply #18 on:** December 11, 2012, 05:45:01 AM »

Thanks for the "unsaucered image", Grob. It's makes a much nicer entry in my reference library.

Bill Murray · « **Reply #19 on:** December 11, 2012, 06:57:07 AM »

Hi All:

Well, I spent another hour or so this morning trying to find out more about this vehicle but not with very much luck.

I got on Google.serbia and found many hundreds of photos of various types of Kampanjolas, all identified as AR55 models.
I think, therefore, we can agree that the basic "vehicle designation" is AR55.

Most of the photos show vehicles in military service and there are many variations with both open and closed bodies including radio vans etc.

The photo that Grob has posted I never found and the one that I posted is the only one of this variant I have found so far.

It is my opinion that this is a civilian conversion station wagon based on the colour scheme and the turn signal lamp mounting. Who built it I have no idea.

I will keep looking.
Bill

grobmotorix · « **Reply #20 on:** December 11, 2012, 12:27:29 PM »

Quote

It is my opinion that this is a civilian conversion station wagon based on the colour scheme and the turn signal lamp mounting. Who built it I have no idea.

agreed...

Bill Murray · « **Reply #21 on:** December 11, 2012, 06:12:24 PM »

Hi Grob:

I do not want to beat this question to death with a club but.......

Your solved message indicates an AR 55 T-2.

I have Googled T-2 on at least four different country sites using T-2 as the key and using every variation I could think of, Zastava, AR55, Kampanjola, Fiat, Fjiat etc. etc.
Do you think that the T-2 is a significant clue as to the real story of this station wagon?

grobmotorix · « **Reply #22 on:** December 11, 2012, 06:14:36 PM »

No. I´ve deleted it from the topic title.

I hope the body will be identified...

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Author Topic: Zastava AR 55, ca. 1972 (Read 998 times)

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