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Re: Cold As Ice
« Reply #75 on: August 24, 2012, 02:40:59 AM »
Sorry to ask, Wendax, but are you sure about the replacement picture #30? While looking around for photos of pop festivals, I've found it was used by Newsweek magazine on the cover of a 1994 issue, looking back to Woodstock after 25 years. It could be a mistake, of course, but working back from that, it also appears on some other sites as being from Woodstock, the photo credited to Jim Marshall.

It's all a bit confusing, and it's getting late here, so I'll have to leave things for tonight, and come back tomorrow.



I'm terribly sorry to mislead you involuntarily. Never trust the internet!
I took the pictures from a site about the festival in question where they seem to have mixed up the pictures with Woodstock ones. I replaced #30 again. This time it should be correct as I found another reference.

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Re: Cold As Ice
« Reply #76 on: August 24, 2012, 03:21:32 PM »
After having searched for ice-cream trucks/vans whatever, I'd come up with very little that might help to solve the remaining puzzles of that genre. Ice-cream trucks are all very well - colourful/different but it was leading me nowhere......

So I decided to look at some of the apparently more obscure images that might lead to a name or some other pointer.
Take #03 - what is it I'm looking at here? It's obviously a painting but what is it?
 - a traffic queue for a car park at Cap Canaveral? a drive-in movie (no screen)? some sort of futuristic car park (where do you park the cars?)
After Googling several permutations on the drive-in theme I came across this painting by an artist named William Alexander Fine Art. Apparently it's a drive-in church!
It was only by chance that I had a look at some of his other creations on his site - and lo and behold, I found that he had also built an ice-cream truck - made of cardboard and selling ice-cream cones shaped in cardboard and filled with emulsion paint as the substitute for the ice-cream!
Anyway, apologies for the rambling on a bit but I suppose you shouldn't be put off by the obscure images Wendax has posted here, there is a connection lurking under the surface.....

Oh, and I nearly forgot - the pairing should be #03 - William Alexander's painting of a Drive-In Church and #20 - William Alexander's Ice-Cream Truck sculpture.
 

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Re: Cold As Ice
« Reply #77 on: August 24, 2012, 03:40:49 PM »
Well, I'm quite impressed by your sleuthing abilities.   :applause:
I think this was one of the hardest combinations to find, especially starting the way at this unknown picture. I came across this artist by looking for icecreamvan pictures, liked his "icecreamvanman" performance and looked for something I could connect it to.
Great detective work. The rest should be easy now.  ;)

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Re: Cold As Ice
« Reply #78 on: August 24, 2012, 04:03:41 PM »
Fantastic, congratulations woodinsight
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Re: Cold As Ice
« Reply #79 on: August 24, 2012, 04:42:29 PM »
Thank you but I don't think the remaining puzzles will be that easy!
I'll have a go at these of course but at the moment I'll probably be having nightmares about ice-cream trucks - especially of the cardboard variety with emulsion paint flavours!

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Re: Cold As Ice
« Reply #80 on: August 24, 2012, 06:44:18 PM »
Impressive or what?!
You're on top form today woodinsight!
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Re: Cold As Ice
« Reply #81 on: August 24, 2012, 07:24:09 PM »
Thank you but I don't think the remaining puzzles will be that easy!
I'll have a go at these of course but at the moment I'll probably be having nightmares about ice-cream trucks - especially of the cardboard variety with emulsion paint flavours!


 :yuck:  ! ! !

I learned how to drive a truck with a crash box (non-synchro transmission) while driving an ice cream truck one summer in sunny Fresno, California.  An old GMC with a "granny-gear" so ya started off in 2nd and all the gears were straight cut.  Served me well in learning to double-clutch (I still do it sometimes without even thinking about it) and heel-and toe and clutchless shifting.  I may join you with nightmares about ice-cream trucks.  :)

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Re: Cold As Ice
« Reply #82 on: August 25, 2012, 03:36:57 PM »
I've also been spending too much time on ice cream trucks...

I've been looking into #10, and can report that Eiscafé Venezia in Weener is still in business after 42 years, and that #10 was their first ice cream van in 1972. But not much else of any use.

So I began to think that the vehicle itself might be the clue. I don't know much about these small three-wheel trucks - they are almost unknown on British roads - and I assumed it was a Piaggio Ape, as that was the only one that I had really come across. But a quick look around showed that it wasn't one of those, and a slightly longer look around revealed it to be an Innocenti Lambro (or Lambretta Lambro, if you prefer).

Now, if you Google the single word "lambro", apart from these vehicles, you bring up pictures of naked people cavorting around at a pop festival, and suddenly there's a link to picture #30.

So it seems that in 1975 and 1976 there were two festivals in the Parco Lambro in Milan. I confess I had never heard of them, and they don't even appear in the Wikipedia main article about rock festivals, which lists dozens of them. They were called Festival del Proletariato Giovanile, which I guess translates as something like "festival of working-class youth", and were organised by a magazine called Re Nudo, which I'm afraid I have also never heard of.

So I think the connection is between #10, an Innocenti/Lambretta Lambro, and #30, a pop festival at Parco Lambro, Milan.

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Re: Cold As Ice
« Reply #83 on: August 25, 2012, 03:47:32 PM »
Another fine piece of detective work. Well done, Tom_I.  :thumbsup:
I can assure you that I didn't know of the Parco Lambro festival before either.

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Re: Cold As Ice
« Reply #84 on: August 25, 2012, 04:16:51 PM »
Well done Tom - you should be dubbed an APSS - Auto Puzzles Super Sleuth!  :thumbsup:
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Re: Cold As Ice
« Reply #85 on: August 26, 2012, 09:24:27 AM »
Not sure if I've found another pair but I think #13 and #15 may be.
#13 is Mirko Draghi's Motoguzzi Ercole (Hercules) ice-cream three-wheeler and #15 may be a Hercules carrier cycle?

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Re: Cold As Ice
« Reply #86 on: August 26, 2012, 09:40:17 AM »
Right idea, wrong match. Have another look at the remaining pictures...  ;D

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Re: Cold As Ice
« Reply #87 on: August 26, 2012, 10:05:28 AM »
sorry, woodinsight:
#13 is Mirko Draghi's Motoguzzi Ercole (Hercules) ice-cream three-wheeler
No 22: Hercules Petroleum Oil Co Dome Gas Takoma Park MD
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Re: Cold As Ice
« Reply #88 on: August 26, 2012, 10:08:06 AM »
Let's try again......
#13 features Mirko Draghi's ice-cream three-wheeler, his own business and on his website it states that he spends his winters skiing.
#25 features a Porsche 356, Mathe-Porsche and other cars towing skiers at an ice race in Bavaria in 1955.
Is that a connection?

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Re: Cold As Ice
« Reply #89 on: August 26, 2012, 12:45:45 PM »
sorry, woodinsight:
#13 is Mirko Draghi's Motoguzzi Ercole (Hercules) ice-cream three-wheeler
No 22: Hercules Petroleum Oil Co Dome Gas Takoma Park MD
At pro level, life is a shark's pool. That is the connection I was looking for.

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Re: Cold As Ice
« Reply #90 on: August 26, 2012, 12:50:27 PM »
Let's try again......
#13 features Mirko Draghi's ice-cream three-wheeler, his own business and on his website it states that he spends his winters skiing.
#25 features a Porsche 356, Mathe-Porsche and other cars towing skiers at an ice race in Bavaria in 1955.
Is that a connection?
Pal snatched #13, so this can't be right, but your close look at #25 showed you something worth following.  ;)

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Re: Cold As Ice
« Reply #91 on: August 26, 2012, 01:39:10 PM »
I think #19 shows the ice skating dancers Irina Rodnina & Alexsandr Zaitsev winning a world championship in Munich (Bavaria) whilst #25 is the ski race in Bavaria behind cars in 1955.
I doubt if this is correct as it would leave the last pair without an 'ice' connection.

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Re: Cold As Ice
« Reply #92 on: August 26, 2012, 01:52:45 PM »
I don't know who is dancing in #19, so I guess it's of no importance to the puzzle.  ;)

#19 and #25 don't make a pair.

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Re: Cold As Ice
« Reply #93 on: August 26, 2012, 01:56:02 PM »
I don't know who is dancing in #19, so I guess it's of no importance to the puzzle.  ;)

#19 and #25 don't make a pair.
Okay back into the pool of sharks again...... ;D

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Re: Cold As Ice
« Reply #94 on: August 26, 2012, 02:05:32 PM »
Logic says that 8 and 25 are a pair, which would leave  no 15 and 19 as the last pair. I am curious who'll be the first to find the connections
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Re: Cold As Ice
« Reply #95 on: August 26, 2012, 02:17:25 PM »
Logic says that 8 and 25 are a pair, which would leave  no 15 and 19 as the last pair.
No comment to that without connections mentioned.

I am curious who'll be the first to find the connections.
Me too.  ;D

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Re: Cold As Ice
« Reply #96 on: August 26, 2012, 03:24:32 PM »
No15: did this bike came from a German-speaking country?
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Re: Cold As Ice
« Reply #97 on: August 26, 2012, 03:27:11 PM »
No15: did this bike came from a German-speaking country?
I don't know the make of the bike, but it was used in a German-speaking country.

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Re: Cold As Ice
« Reply #98 on: August 26, 2012, 03:32:32 PM »
Was it used in Austria before the 2nd World War?
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Re: Cold As Ice
« Reply #99 on: August 26, 2012, 03:41:40 PM »
Was it used in Austria before the 2nd World War?
It was used in Austria. The year I have is one during WW2.