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Re: Bus Puzzle No. 4
« Reply #50 on: November 15, 2012, 11:39:00 AM »
Number 15 - 1935 leyland TTL bus from london
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Re: Bus Puzzle No. 4
« Reply #51 on: November 15, 2012, 12:16:49 PM »
Quote from: pguillem on November 15, 2012, 11:29:21 AM
Quote from: Carnut on November 15, 2012, 11:24:03 AM
OK, it's been 3 days since an ID so apart from being open to anyone who has scored less than the maximum, those who have already gained 6/7 points may now identify ONE more each (make/model/year/operator where known) for 2 more points!

Good news !  #6 is the Austin J2 from 1968, property of Gordon Holland.  It was called as the World's most Ugly PSV.

Indeed it is, so that's 1 point for the ID and 1 more for the Operator.
I've seen far uglier coaches than this; I'll try to dig some of them out for my next Bus Puzzle!

The original picture:

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Re: Bus Puzzle No. 4
« Reply #52 on: November 15, 2012, 12:20:02 PM »
Quote from: Joćo on November 15, 2012, 11:39:00 AM
Number 15 - 1935 leyland TTL bus from london

Leyland TTL is right, but it's not from 1935 and was nothing to do with London.
I'll lock this one for you to dig further into and say exactly what the Leyland TTL was and from when it dated.
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Re: Bus Puzzle No. 4
« Reply #53 on: November 15, 2012, 01:19:20 PM »
No.8 is an AEC Regent STL class with an LPTB Chiswick built body from the mid 1930s. Operated by LPTB - London Passenger Transport Board. This bus was originally STF 1.
« Last Edit: November 15, 2012, 02:26:01 PM by woodinsight »
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Re: Bus Puzzle No. 4
« Reply #54 on: November 15, 2012, 02:04:01 PM »
Is No7 a Chinese King Long?
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Re: Bus Puzzle No. 4
« Reply #55 on: November 15, 2012, 02:19:43 PM »
Interesting, I thought it was from London and 1935 (prototype).
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Re: Bus Puzzle No. 4
« Reply #56 on: November 15, 2012, 03:36:12 PM »
#24: An Alexander Dennis Enviro500 double-decker bus belonging to GO Transit. Seen at York University in the northern suburbs of Toronto, Canada.
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Re: Bus Puzzle No. 4
« Reply #57 on: November 15, 2012, 04:24:37 PM »
18. Is a 1926 Maudslay ML3 with Hall Lewis coachwork. Operated by Fallowfield & Knight.
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Re: Bus Puzzle No. 4
« Reply #58 on: November 16, 2012, 04:31:59 AM »
Quote from: woodinsight on November 15, 2012, 01:19:20 PM
No.8 is an AEC Regent STL class with an LPTB Chiswick built body from the mid 1930s. Operated by LPTB - London Passenger Transport Board. This bus was originally STF 1.

Yes, it is.  I've seen few pictures of this full-cab STL; I wonder what happened to it..
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Re: Bus Puzzle No. 4
« Reply #59 on: November 16, 2012, 04:33:05 AM »
Quote from: pnegyesi on November 15, 2012, 02:04:01 PM
Is No7 a Chinese King Long?

No - it's not from China!
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Re: Bus Puzzle No. 4
« Reply #60 on: November 16, 2012, 04:33:49 AM »
Quote from: Wendax on November 15, 2012, 03:36:12 PM
#24: An Alexander Dennis Enviro500 double-decker bus belonging to GO Transit. Seen at York University in the northern suburbs of Toronto, Canada.

Exactly.  That's your 2 points..
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Re: Bus Puzzle No. 4
« Reply #61 on: November 16, 2012, 04:34:39 AM »
Quote from: Craig Gillingham on November 15, 2012, 04:24:37 PM
18. Is a 1926 Maudslay ML3 with Hall Lewis coachwork. Operated by Fallowfield & Knight.

Yes!  2 more points for you..
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Re: Bus Puzzle No. 4
« Reply #62 on: November 16, 2012, 04:40:49 AM »
Quote from: Joćo on November 15, 2012, 02:19:43 PM
Interesting, I thought it was from London and 1935 (prototype).

Actually you're right about the date; I had it as 1937 but that is incorrect.
So as per the picture you have posted it's a prototype Leyland TTL Low-loading trolley-bus.
But it had nothing at all to do with London!  I know it appears on a London Bus site but that's just someone today illustrating that this 77 year-old bus could serve today as a suitable replacement for the much-loved Routemaster, with its modern front door AND an open rear platform (just like the brand-new "Boris bus"!), plus the attraction of zero-emissions.  I know its picture also appears on a London Bus Pictures website, but that picture is of the bus  doing a demonstration run in Bolton.  There is no evidence at all of the bus ever going to London or of London Transport ever being interested in it.  Sadly this bus, which was quite advanced for a 1935 British design, never entered production.
Anyway, you've identified what it is so that's another point for you!

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Re: Bus Puzzle No. 4
« Reply #63 on: November 16, 2012, 04:51:36 AM »
Points still to be earned:

No 7. What is it and where does it operate?  2 pts
No 19. What is it, who bodied it, when and who operated it?  At least 2 pts - maybe more!
No 20. Where does this bus operate? 1 point.
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Re: Bus Puzzle No. 4
« Reply #64 on: November 16, 2012, 06:39:08 AM »
Can I just add for the record (no points thankyou) that the Austin J2 (No.6) has a Walker Fineline body.

Am I also allowed to answer one of the three remaining puzzles?
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Re: Bus Puzzle No. 4
« Reply #65 on: November 16, 2012, 08:52:01 AM »
Quote from: woodinsight on November 16, 2012, 06:39:08 AM
Can I just add for the record (no points thankyou) that the Austin J2 (No.6) has a Walker Fineline body.

Am I also allowed to answer one of the three remaining puzzles?

Thanks!
OK, I'll open it all up now - but still no more than one more max 2 point ID per puzzler!
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Re: Bus Puzzle No. 4
« Reply #66 on: November 16, 2012, 09:01:05 AM »
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No 20. Where does this bus operate? 1 point.
Singapore Bus Service demonstrator
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Re: Bus Puzzle No. 4
« Reply #67 on: November 16, 2012, 09:10:20 AM »
Quote from: Wendax on November 16, 2012, 09:01:05 AM
Quote from: Carnut on November 16, 2012, 04:51:36 AM
No 20. Where does this bus operate? 1 point.
Singapore Bus Service demonstrator

1 more point!
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Re: Bus Puzzle No. 4
« Reply #68 on: November 16, 2012, 01:29:57 PM »
One more point for the fact that #7 is being built by Elba House from Jordan?
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Re: Bus Puzzle No. 4
« Reply #69 on: November 16, 2012, 01:46:32 PM »
Okay thanks Carnut, my last try is on no.19.
I believe this is a Daimler CW series built in the 1943/44 period with I think a Brush utility body that has been rebuilt early postwar - probably by Nudd Bros. & Lockyer. Operator is BMMO (Midland Red) and in service in Birmingham and environs.
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Re: Bus Puzzle No. 4
« Reply #70 on: November 16, 2012, 01:57:45 PM »
Quote from: Wendax on November 16, 2012, 01:29:57 PM
One more point for the fact that #7 is being built by Elba House from Jordan?

I just saw the Elba House double-decker when looking for Bagdad DDs a few days ago, but the actual bus looks somewhat different from Bus #7, which is shown on Iraq-business news site.
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Re: Bus Puzzle No. 4
« Reply #71 on: November 16, 2012, 02:23:54 PM »
Quote from: Wendax on November 16, 2012, 01:29:57 PM
One more point for the fact that #7 is being built by Elba House from Jordan?

OK, that's yours, and...


Quote from: pguillem on November 16, 2012, 01:57:45 PM
I just saw the Elba House double-decker when looking for Bagdad DDs a few days ago, but the actual bus looks somewhat different from Bus #7, which is shown on Iraq-business news site.

...the 2nd point for this one for this answer, which is of course correct.  My puzzle picture is probably the prototype.
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Re: Bus Puzzle No. 4
« Reply #72 on: November 16, 2012, 02:26:56 PM »
Quote from: woodinsight on November 16, 2012, 01:46:32 PM
Okay thanks Carnut, my last try is on no.19.
I believe this is a Daimler CW series built in the 1943/44 period with I think a Brush utility body that has been rebuilt early postwar - probably by Nudd Bros. & Lockyer. Operator is BMMO (Midland Red) and in service in Birmingham and environs.

I thought this one would be the last to go and so it has proved; it's rather difficult to track down.
It is indeed a Midland Red Daimler CWA6 from 1944.
But it wasn't bodied by Brush, although it does look identical to the Brush bodies fitted in the late 1940s to the Guys originally delivered with wartime utility bodies around the same time as this Daimler.
So you get 1 point for the info so far and I'll lock it for you to see if you can find out who did actually body this bus.
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Re: Bus Puzzle No. 4
« Reply #73 on: November 17, 2012, 01:39:56 AM »
No.19 is the body by Duple?
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Re: Bus Puzzle No. 4
« Reply #74 on: November 17, 2012, 04:25:25 PM »
Quote from: woodinsight on November 17, 2012, 01:39:56 AM
No.19 is the body by Duple?

It is, yes!
So that just about wraps up this puzzle.
I'm collecting material for another one already!
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