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Solved - Bus Puzzle No. 4
« on: October 31, 2012, 11:15:15 AM »
I think it's time for another Bus Puzzle!
This time it won't be quite so big though, as they can be too difficult to administer.
Once again there are various rules which must be followed:

1) 1 point for make/model/year - as much as is known, and 1 point for operator/where operated - if known.
2) Maximum 4 points per puzzler for starters 6 points per puzzler, unless I give special dispensation.  This avoids any one individual identifying everything.
3) Points will be awarded as we go along according to the information given; there can be 1, 2 or even 3 points per bus.
4) I don't necessarily know as must as the puzzler, so I may ask for links to check out the answers.
5) Do I need to say that Google Search by Image MAY NOT BE USED to find the answers!

Happy puzzling!

First set of pictures (2 lots of 12):

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Re: Bus Puzzle No. 4
« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2012, 11:18:45 AM »
Second set of pictures:

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Re: Bus Puzzle No. 4
« Reply #2 on: November 02, 2012, 09:00:55 AM »
Solutions and points awarded:

 1. Six-Wheel Co. model 66 from 1926, bodied by American Motor Body Co and operated by the Firestone Rubber
     Co between S. Akron and Cuyahoga Falls for its workers.  Only 2 of this particular bus were made.  2 points to
     Craig Gillingham and 1 to Joao for bodybuilder.
 2. 1931 Versare operated by Boston Elevated Railway.  1 pt to woodinsight for make; 1 pt to pguillem for operator.
 3. 1933 Thornycroft "King Kong" bodied by Grassi and operated by Companhia Geral de Transportes on route
     Sao Paulo - Santos.  3 pts for Joao.
 4. Volvo tourist bus operated in Bergen, Norway.  1 point for Wendax.
 5. 1934 Foden, bodied by Foden and operated by Wheildons of Uttoxeter.  2 points for woodinsight.
 6. Austin J2 coach 1968 with Walker Fineline body, operated by Gordon Holland. 2 points for pguillem.
 7. Jordanian ELBA operated in Baghdad.  1 point to Wendax for make and 1 pt to pguillem for where operated.
 8. London Transport AEC Regent STL cab-over-engine bus bodied by Chiswick garage abt 1935.  2 points to woodinsight.
 9.  Safeway Six-Wheel Co. model 66 bodied by St Louis Car Co in 1925 for Kansas City Railways. 2 points to
      Craig Gillingham.
10. Isobloc Panoramique di Rosa - 1956.  1 point for pguillem.
11. 1948 Jensen luxury coach bodied by Reading.  2 points for woodinsight.
12. 1927 Karrier CL/6 bodied by Park Royal.  2 points to pguillem.
13. LAZ-360EM prototype - 1970.  1 point to del78.
14. 1956 Leyland Steer Coach for South African Railways.  2 points for pguillem.
15. 1935 Leyland Low-Loading Trolley bus prototype - 1 point to Joao.
16. 1927 Karrier WL6/2 bodied by Brush operated by Portsmouth Corporation.  2 points to Craig Gillingham.
17. 1926 Fageol operated by Los Angeles Motor Bus on Wilshire Blvd.  2 points for Joao.
18. 1926 Maudslay ML3 bodied by Hall Lewis and operated by Fallowfield & Knight.  2 points to Craig Gillingham.
19. 1944 Midland Red Daimler CWA6 bodied by Duple.  2 points for woodinsight.
20. Mercedes-Benz 0305 bodied by Willowbrook, operating in Singapore.  3 points for Wendax.
21. Yutong of Zhangzhou Citymaster double-deck bus operated by Skopje JSP.  1 point to Wendax for make; 1
      point to pguillem for where operated.
22. Morris Commercial Imperial 1933, bodied by MCCW.  2 points for Wendax.
23. London General Omnibus Co Meadows-engined double-deck bus after rebodying by Duple in 1939 when sold
      to White Heather.   2 points for woodinsight.
24. Alexander-bodied Dennis Enviro500 operated by GOtransit in Ontario.  2 points to Wendax.


Points awarded so far:

Craig Gillingham: 8
Joao: 7
Wendax:  10
Woodinsight: 11
Pguillem: 10
del78:  1
« Last Edit: November 17, 2012, 04:29:18 PM by Carnut »
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Re: Bus Puzzle No. 4
« Reply #3 on: November 02, 2012, 09:01:50 AM »
Well, there don't seem to be any closet bus enthusiasts lurking amongst the Rookies so let's move this one up a notch..
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Re: Bus Puzzle No. 4
« Reply #4 on: November 02, 2012, 09:40:54 AM »
1. is a Safeway Six-Wheel coach, model 66 from 1926?

9. is a Safeway Six-Wheel coach with St Louis Car Co. coachwork. I think it the model 66 from 1925? I think it was operated by Kansas City Railways.
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Re: Bus Puzzle No. 4
« Reply #5 on: November 02, 2012, 09:56:57 AM »
1. is a Safeway Six-Wheel coach, model 66 from 1926?

9. is a Safeway Six-Wheel coach with St Louis Car Co. coachwork. I think it the model 66 from 1925? I think it was operated by Kansas City Railways.

9. Yes, that's right.  The fact that it was bodied by St Louis Car Co almost certainly identifies it as one of the fleet of 66s delivered to Kansas City Railways in 1925.  2 points for that!

1. Correct bus, yes.  1 point for that, but another if you can tell me who operated this particular bus and where?
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Re: Bus Puzzle No. 4
« Reply #6 on: November 02, 2012, 10:05:25 AM »
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1. Correct bus, yes.  1 point for that, but another if you can tell me who operated this particular bus and where?
This is a bit of guess work, but - the Northern Ohio Power & Light Co., and it was operated in Akron?

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Re: Bus Puzzle No. 4
« Reply #7 on: November 02, 2012, 10:09:24 AM »
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1. Correct bus, yes.  1 point for that, but another if you can tell me who operated this particular bus and where?
This is a bit of guess work, but - the Northern Ohio Power & Light Co., and it was operated in Akron?

It did operate a service from South Akron to somewhere - but it wasn't Northern Ohio Power's!
Try again!
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Re: Bus Puzzle No. 4
« Reply #8 on: November 02, 2012, 10:16:34 AM »
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1. Correct bus, yes.  1 point for that, but another if you can tell me who operated this particular bus and where?
This is a bit of guess work, but - the Northern Ohio Power & Light Co., and it was operated in Akron?

It did operate a service from South Akron to somewhere - but it wasn't Northern Ohio Power's!
Try again!
The Firestone companies?
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Re: Bus Puzzle No. 4
« Reply #9 on: November 02, 2012, 10:38:27 AM »
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1. Correct bus, yes.  1 point for that, but another if you can tell me who operated this particular bus and where?
This is a bit of guess work, but - the Northern Ohio Power & Light Co., and it was operated in Akron?

It did operate a service from South Akron to somewhere - but it wasn't Northern Ohio Power's!
Try again!
The Firestone companies?

You edited your reply just as I hit the "Quote" button and it took me a few seconds to realise why I'd said "No"!
Yes, it was operated by the Firestone Rubber Co for its workers, between S. Akron and Cuyahoga Falls.
So that's another point and you done for the moment..  Let's see what others come up with.
« Last Edit: November 02, 2012, 10:50:04 AM by Carnut »
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Re: Bus Puzzle No. 4
« Reply #10 on: November 05, 2012, 06:49:30 PM »
no13: some Karosa prototype?

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Re: Bus Puzzle No. 4
« Reply #11 on: November 06, 2012, 04:06:09 AM »
no13: some Karosa prototype?

It's not a Karosa, but you're on the right track..
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Re: Bus Puzzle No. 4
« Reply #12 on: November 06, 2012, 08:19:25 AM »
from CZ?

edit: LAZ 360EM from 1970
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Re: Bus Puzzle No. 4
« Reply #13 on: November 06, 2012, 09:16:02 AM »
from CZ?

edit: LAZ 360EM from 1970

Yes, it's a prototype so that's all there is to say about this bus.
1 point for you.
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Re: Bus Puzzle No. 4
« Reply #14 on: November 09, 2012, 06:37:32 AM »
Do I get to have another go at this puzzle?

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Re: Bus Puzzle No. 4
« Reply #15 on: November 09, 2012, 07:05:40 AM »
Do I get to have another go at this puzzle?

Not yet, as you've had the maximum 4 points as stipulated in the rules.
When I move it up I'll see what response I get, but there will be some Pro's who are ready with some answers so I'll have to wait until they've posted and things have tailed off a bit before I increase the number of points each puzzler may get.
It will be moving up to the Pro's within a few days at most.
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Re: Bus Puzzle No. 4
« Reply #16 on: November 12, 2012, 06:29:31 AM »
Time to give the Pro's a go.
Please do specially note the rules, in which there is no change as yet.
Will see what the Pro's make of it before decided if any amendments are necessary.
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Re: Bus Puzzle No. 4
« Reply #17 on: November 12, 2012, 06:31:47 AM »
Nice as usual!  ;)

#3 - CGT - Companhia Geral de Transportes Thornycroft Bus with coachwork by Grassi, Sćo Paulo-Santos.
#17 - 1926 Fageol double-decker bus, ran on Wilshire Boulevard - Los Angeles.
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Re: Bus Puzzle No. 4
« Reply #18 on: November 12, 2012, 06:42:12 AM »
#4: Volvo sightseeing bus from Bergen, Norway, used for the "Bergen in a Nutshell Sightseeing Tour, Perle & Bruse", Bergen Cable Car Ulriken
#20: Mercedes-Benz O305 double-decker bus by Willowbrook (SBS5500S)
#22: Morris Commercial Imperial from 1933, MCCW H26/22R body
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Re: Bus Puzzle No. 4
« Reply #19 on: November 12, 2012, 07:19:34 AM »
Nice as usual!  ;)

#3 - CGT - Companhia Geral de Transportes Thornycroft Bus with coachwork by Grassi, Sćo Paulo-Santos.
#17 - 1926 Fageol double-decker bus, ran on Wilshire Boulevard - Los Angeles.

Exactly right for both, yes.  But #3 also has a nick-name which I really want before this one can be considered solved.  Since you've given me the make, the bodybuilder and the route on which it operates you already deserve 2 pts for that, but I'll stretch the point and give you another point for its nickname if you can come up with it (it's locked for your reply).

#17 also earns 2 points, one for the make and year and another for where it was operated.  So that's 4 pts so far but the chance of a 5th exceptionally.
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Re: Bus Puzzle No. 4
« Reply #20 on: November 12, 2012, 07:19:53 AM »
Great puzzle again -

No. 2 - Versare streetcar 1928
No. 5 - Foden 1934 (Foden built body) for Wheildon's of Uttoxeter
No.11 - Jensen 1948 with a body by Reading

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Re: Bus Puzzle No. 4
« Reply #21 on: November 12, 2012, 07:25:03 AM »
#4: Volvo sightseeing bus from Bergen, Norway, used for the "Bergen in a Nutshell Sightseeing Tour, Perle & Bruse", Bergen Cable Car Ulriken
#20: Mercedes-Benz O305 double-decker bus by Willowbrook (SBS5500S)
#22: Morris Commercial Imperial from 1933, MCCW H26/22R body

You're looking for slightly more points than you're entitled to but I will stretch it slightly to 6 for the Pro's now:
1 point for #4 - all correct.
2 points for #20 - correct on both counts, but where does it operate?  Locked for your reply.
2 points for #22 - all correct.
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Re: Bus Puzzle No. 4
« Reply #22 on: November 12, 2012, 07:28:05 AM »
Great puzzle again -

No. 2 - Versare streetcar 1928
No. 5 - Foden 1934 (Foden built body) for Wheildon's of Uttoxeter
No.11 - Jensen 1948 with a body by Reading

Yes, I really enjoy putting these together!

#5: 2 points for correct make, date and operator.
#11: 2 points for correct make, date and bodybuilder (which I didn't know!)

That's your 4 points for the moment, although it does look like I'll have to stretch it to 6 for everyone (incl Craig Gillingham!) as I have already stretched it for both Wendax and Joao and must keep it fair.
However, #2 is wrong on both counts so you still have 2 points to go!

I see this takes you past 500 points!  Fantastic!  :applause: :applause:
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Re: Bus Puzzle No. 4
« Reply #23 on: November 12, 2012, 07:32:37 AM »
This leaves the opportunity for another point.
#21 Yutong Citymaster ZK6116HGS from 2011. I know where it is operated, but I keep quiet.

Sorry for stretching the limit. I thought it was just worth 4 points. Thanks!
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Re: Bus Puzzle No. 4
« Reply #24 on: November 12, 2012, 07:38:25 AM »
Thanks.

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