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Solved - als_058 - Fiat 1100 ELR funeral bus by Ollearo
« on: December 10, 2011, 06:54:21 PM »
Who made it? On which base? And with which purpose?
A complete answer worths a point.
« Last Edit: August 18, 2014, 10:13:51 AM by als15 »

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Re: als_058
« Reply #1 on: December 19, 2011, 07:04:41 AM »
Do Experts have any idea of what is this?

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Re: als_058
« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2011, 03:03:26 PM »
Looks like a stretched London Taxi

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Re: als_058
« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2011, 04:15:29 PM »
The Birch cab

Taxi operators Birch Brothers of Kentish Town, north London, were in the vanguard of the move to diesel power for taxicabs. When the Standard Motor Co introduced the UK’s first sub-3-litre diesel engine in 1953, Birch Brothers offered a conversion scheme for the FX3 at an all-in price of £325. Those who opted for the 2.1-litre, 4-cylinder Standard unit could enjoy savings of up to 50% on their fuel bills, so the conversion proved very popular, leading Austin to introduce their own 2.2-litre diesel option on the FX3 the following year.


The one and only Birch cab,
For their next trick, Birch Brothers went one better, and designed a whole new taxi cab. Based on Standard Ten underpinnings, the Birch cab appeared in 1955, and boasted a modern – and in some respects, quite radical – design. Its most distinctive feature was a rear-hinged side door mounted aft of the nearside rear wheel arch, providing access to the luggage compartment from the kerbside. The cab’s bodywork was constructed by bus and coach builders Park Royal Vehicles Ltd, who incidentally would become part of the BLMC combine the following decade. The prototype cab (Park Royal body no. B38707) entered service in London, but without sufficient funding to put it into production, no further examples were ever built. However, the fact that the Standard Ten’s chassis had been successfully modified to meet the PCO’s requirement for a 25ft turning circle led directly to Standard-Triumph engineering a similarly tight tunring circle for the 1959 Herald.

In 1963, John Birch made another bid for a slice of the taxi market, this time using the chassis of the Standard Atlas van as his basis. He again commissioned Park Royal to build the bodywork (body no. 49760), but the project was abandoned after techincal difficulties relating to axle-loads emerged



If this is the one, found it today after looking for another taxi article for a friend who runs a heritage transport company
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Re: als_058
« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2011, 05:18:28 PM »
Very interesting story, but is not related with this car at all.

And this is not even a taxi...  ;D

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Re: als_058
« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2011, 06:24:46 PM »

The one and only Birch cab,
For their next trick, Birch Brothers went one better, and designed a whole new taxi cab. Based on Standard Ten underpinnings, the Birch cab appeared in 1955, and boasted a modern – and in some respects, quite radical – design. Its most distinctive feature was a rear-hinged side door mounted aft of the nearside rear wheel arch, providing access to the luggage compartment from the kerbside. The cab’s bodywork was constructed by bus and coach builders Park Royal Vehicles Ltd, who incidentally would become part of the BLMC combine the following decade. The prototype cab (Park Royal body no. B38707) entered service in London, but without sufficient funding to put it into production, no further examples were ever built. However, the fact that the Standard Ten’s chassis had been successfully modified to meet the PCO’s requirement for a 25ft turning circle led directly to Standard-Triumph engineering a similarly tight tunring circle for the 1959 Herald.



You mean this don't you roger:

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Re: als_058
« Reply #6 on: December 20, 2011, 06:59:23 PM »
I realised that too late.  ::)

Thought after a second look, the rear lights and wing look more like an american car.

Anyway I can remember the Taxi company in Kentish Town, My old stomping ground, half the family still there.

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Re: als_058
« Reply #7 on: December 29, 2011, 08:37:14 AM »
Professionals have any idea about this very particular vehicle?

A clue: it's part of a pair, sharing the same styling.

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Re: als_058
« Reply #8 on: December 30, 2011, 05:09:51 AM »
Is it a hearse? (And is the other part of the pair a flower car?)

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Re: als_058
« Reply #9 on: December 30, 2011, 05:11:01 AM »
No: it's for live people. But you are close...

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Re: als_058
« Reply #10 on: December 30, 2011, 05:22:13 AM »
Was it the car to transport the mourners?

Fiat 1900 based? Carrozzeria Accossato?

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Re: als_058
« Reply #11 on: December 30, 2011, 08:07:52 AM »
Was it the car to transport the mourners?

Fiat 1900 based? Carrozzeria Accossato?

Indeed! And of course the other vehicle is the hearse, sharing same chassis and same styling.

However, they are neither based on Fiat 1900 nor by Accossato.
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Re: als_058
« Reply #12 on: December 30, 2011, 08:09:20 AM »
Based on Alfa Romeo 1900?

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Re: als_058
« Reply #13 on: December 30, 2011, 08:09:54 AM »
 :shakehead:

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Re: als_058
« Reply #14 on: December 30, 2011, 08:11:33 AM »
Carrozzeria Casale ?

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Re: als_058
« Reply #15 on: December 30, 2011, 08:19:34 AM »
No, more obscure and not a hearse specialist at all: these are the only vehicles of this kind I know made by him.

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Re: als_058
« Reply #16 on: December 30, 2011, 09:06:24 AM »
Based on a Fiat 1400?

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Re: als_058
« Reply #17 on: December 30, 2011, 10:00:07 AM »
No, not a 1900 and not a 1400. A little bit older.

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Re: als_058
« Reply #18 on: December 30, 2011, 10:02:35 AM »
Fiat 1500?

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Re: als_058
« Reply #19 on: December 30, 2011, 10:03:52 AM »
No...

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Re: als_058
« Reply #20 on: January 01, 2012, 05:10:17 PM »
Coachwork by Bartoletti?

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Re: als_058
« Reply #21 on: January 01, 2012, 05:33:59 PM »
No...

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Re: als_058
« Reply #22 on: March 10, 2012, 12:02:49 PM »
The logo at the Hearse, is it Conrero logo?

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Re: als_058
« Reply #23 on: March 10, 2012, 12:45:50 PM »
No, the prancing bull is simply the coat-of-arms of the city of Turin. It's not a big clue... This only means that this hearse was intended to be sold to Turin city administration.

But let's give a little help: the builder of these vehicles was a small manufacturer mainly involved in another type of motor-vehicle production, only sometimes making commercial vehicles and this single (as far as I know) hearse.


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Re: als_058
« Reply #24 on: March 10, 2012, 01:50:41 PM »
Must be Fiat 1100 based?
Anything to do with Michelotti/Vignale?
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