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Re: Allemano's № 801
« Reply #1 on: June 04, 2012, 05:10:07 AM »
up!

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Re: Allemano's № 801
« Reply #2 on: July 02, 2012, 04:37:16 AM »
.. again!

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Re: Allemano's № 801
« Reply #3 on: July 02, 2012, 05:25:39 AM »
It's a VAR

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Re: Allemano's № 801
« Reply #4 on: July 02, 2012, 05:27:48 AM »
Varhaftig!  ;D

But we need more infos...


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Re: Allemano's № 801
« Reply #5 on: July 02, 2012, 05:47:34 AM »
I don't think I deserve apoint for this.
I post the VAR as a puzzle some time ago. I can't find it back but I know that I took a (better) view of the car from a long article in a magazine. From the same magazine came another puzzle of mine...it was a Lancia b20 bodied by an italian coachbuilder that was quite similar to the Cisitalia.
Now, I can't find back the VAR, the Cisitalia clone and I can't remeber the coachbuilder of it.
I tried few times to browse that magazines for the article but there are too many issues.
I'll try again, post the article and the pics but it will take time...if someone remembers the other puzzles it will help me spare some time...

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Re: Allemano's № 801
« Reply #6 on: July 02, 2012, 05:48:52 AM »
OK, I found the Lancia Aprilia by Farina...still searching...
http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=15075.0

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Re: Allemano's № 801
« Reply #7 on: July 02, 2012, 05:51:07 AM »
Oh my...it was the Voran  :-\
Here you are all I've got about the VAR:

VAR (A) 1924
Gianni Varrone, Hard, Vorarlberg.
Varrone was an Italian-Swiss engineer who designed a small car powered by a 300cc flat-twin 2-stroke engine with wooden chassis and body panels of imitation leather. This gave a very light weight of 616lb (280kg), but as the engine developed only 6.5bph, top speed was no more than 25mph (40km/h). Varrone planned to build a more powerful car with 4-stroke engine, but could get no baking for his projects. These involved a pre-series of 10 cars and an initial production run of 100, but only one prototype was ever made.

NG


source: Georgano's Beaulieu.
« Last Edit: July 02, 2012, 07:59:42 AM by Paul Jaray »

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Re: Allemano's № 801
« Reply #8 on: July 05, 2012, 01:01:16 PM »
Correct!

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Re: Solved: Allemano's № 801 - 1924 VAR prototype from Switzerland
« Reply #9 on: July 07, 2012, 08:39:10 AM »
I have the same pic (in better quality) and it's the mirror image of this pic. Has this one been flipped or has mine been?
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Re: Solved: Allemano's № 801 - 1924 VAR prototype from Switzerland
« Reply #10 on: July 07, 2012, 09:48:13 AM »
I have the same pic (in better quality) and it's the mirror image of this pic. Has this one been flipped or has mine been?
I took it from a quite reliable source from Switzerland. Don't think they showed it mirrored.

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Re: Solved: Allemano's № 801 - 1924 VAR prototype from Switzerland
« Reply #11 on: July 07, 2012, 02:42:52 PM »
I have this car but from Austria

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Re: Solved: Allemano's № 801 - 1924 VAR prototype from Switzerland
« Reply #12 on: July 07, 2012, 05:26:52 PM »
VAR (A) 1924

Gianni Varrone, Hard. Voralberg
The Var was a light car built in Austria by an Italian-Swiss engineer.  It was of his own design and manufacture, and used a 300cc flat-twin two-stroke engine, wooden chassis frame and body panels of imitation leather.  Varrone could get no financial backing, and only one car was made, a 4-stroke engine being fitted later.

Source: The New Encyclopedia of Motorcars, G. N. Georgano


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Re: Solved: Allemano's № 801 - 1924 VAR prototype from Switzerland
« Reply #13 on: July 15, 2012, 06:03:55 AM »
In fact, the car was actually built in Austria. Hard is about 2 km away from the Austrian-Swiss border. Giovanni Varrone was born in Vienna, but was of Swiss nationality, because his father was Swiss. His home was in Tessin, Switzerland. That is the reason why the Var is usually regarded as a Swiss car. I was fooled, too, as I found the Var in Schmid's book "Schweizer Autos".

Allemano's picture is not mirrored, ftg3plus4's is. The steering was a little off center to the right of the car. In Schmid's book there are two pictures showing this.

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Re: Solved: Allemano's № 801 - 1924 VAR prototype from Switzerland
« Reply #14 on: July 15, 2012, 06:42:03 PM »
Allemano's picture is not mirrored, ftg3plus4's is.
Which mean's Oguerrerob's big one above is.
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Re: Solved: Allemano's № 801 - 1924 VAR prototype from Switzerland
« Reply #15 on: July 16, 2012, 02:33:50 AM »
Yes, I got that mixed up, sorry.