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Cole 8 cyl. Sedan, 1920
« on: October 14, 2012, 05:43:33 AM »
Who knows this car?
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Re: Vintage special #2 / grob 2012.10.14 (02)
« Reply #1 on: October 17, 2012, 02:03:56 PM »
Up!

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Re: Vintage special #2 / grob 2012.10.14 (02)
« Reply #2 on: October 19, 2012, 03:40:31 PM »
About a 1923 Roamer?

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Re: Vintage special #2 / grob 2012.10.14 (02)
« Reply #3 on: October 21, 2012, 02:34:32 PM »
No, but from the USA.

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Re: Vintage special #2 / grob 2012.10.14 (02)
« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2012, 07:00:05 PM »
Cunningham?

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Re: Vintage special #2 / grob 2012.10.14 (02)
« Reply #5 on: October 21, 2012, 09:41:11 PM »
A Cole, but a bit earlier, 1921?
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Re: Vintage special #2 / grob 2012.10.14 (02)
« Reply #6 on: October 22, 2012, 01:06:40 AM »
LOCKED for Craig.

You“re absolutly right, but the year is even a bit more earlier... ;)

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Re: LOCKED for Craig Gillingham / Vintage special #2 / grob 2012.10.14 (02)
« Reply #7 on: October 22, 2012, 01:36:57 AM »
I don't think I could go too much earlier. 1920 Cole Aero Eight, model 870?

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Re: LOCKED for Craig Gillingham / Vintage special #2 / grob 2012.10.14 (02)
« Reply #8 on: October 22, 2012, 11:41:20 AM »
That“s even more precise than my source and I“m sure you“re right!

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Re: Cole 8 cyl. Sedan, 1920
« Reply #9 on: October 22, 2012, 11:51:21 AM »
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Re: Cole 8 cyl. Sedan, 1920
« Reply #10 on: October 22, 2012, 12:06:01 PM »
 :thumbsup:

But I think it looks ways more modern with the closed steel rims:
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Re: Cole 8 cyl. Sedan, 1920
« Reply #11 on: October 22, 2012, 01:48:06 PM »
 ;D

Nice!

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Re: Cole 8 cyl. Sedan, 1920
« Reply #12 on: October 22, 2012, 02:25:57 PM »
Here“s a contemporary ad:

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Re: Cole 8 cyl. Sedan, 1920
« Reply #13 on: October 22, 2012, 05:06:43 PM »
Has anybody counted bolts?  The artillery wheeled model has 5-stud hubs and 6 bolts at the rim while the solid wheel has 6-stud ones and 12 at the rim.

Incidentally, is the second photo with disc wheels ("But I think it looks ways more modern with the closed steel rims") a photo doctored in period, or is it a 2012 Photoshop job?
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Re: Cole 8 cyl. Sedan, 1920
« Reply #14 on: October 22, 2012, 06:02:43 PM »
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Has anybody counted bolts?  The artillery wheeled model has 5-stud hubs and 6 bolts at the rim while the solid wheel has 6-stud ones and 12 at the rim.
I'm pretty sure the disk wheels are made by Disteel. The whole hub was probably replaced (front & back) with a Disteel made one, which is why it's got 5 studs compared to the standard 6 studs on the originals. I've seen Disteel wheels with 10, 11, 12 & 13 studs on the rims.

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Re: Cole 8 cyl. Sedan, 1920
« Reply #15 on: October 23, 2012, 01:12:57 AM »
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Has anybody counted bolts?  The artillery wheeled model has 5-stud hubs and 6 bolts at the rim while the solid wheel has 6-stud ones and 12 at the rim.

Incidentally, is the second photo with disc wheels ("But I think it looks ways more modern with the closed steel rims") a photo doctored in period, or is it a 2012 Photoshop job?

Hi Sherlock!

It was a spontaneous photoshop job by myself to show how much better it has looked like with the modern wheel type.

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I'm pretty sure the disk wheels are made by Disteel. The whole hub was probably replaced (front & back) with a Disteel made one, which is why it's got 5 studs compared to the standard 6 studs on the originals. I've seen Disteel wheels with 10, 11, 12 & 13 studs on the rims.

And it seems to have been not the most unrealistic photoshop job  ;D
I just took the wheels of the very first pic, changed them a bit and put them in the pic with the wooden spoke wheels.

But thank you very much for your mindfulness.
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Re: Cole 8 cyl. Sedan, 1920
« Reply #16 on: October 23, 2012, 01:47:23 AM »
That's some neat Photoshopping. I wouldn't have picked it otherwise.

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Re: Cole 8 cyl. Sedan, 1920
« Reply #17 on: October 23, 2012, 11:44:27 AM »
Not bad for a five minute job, isn“t it   8)