Author Topic: SAC#357:Fiat 1100 barchetta 1946 by Frua (Read 2552 times)

Carnut · « **Reply #25 on:** April 19, 2016, 08:09:10 AM »

It does look incredibly like that car that can be seen on a couple of websites labelled as a Frua Fiat 1100 Barchetta 1946.
It even has that fin down the middle of the rear but which can't actually be seen clearly in the puzzle photo as the middle of the picture is missing..
Is it in fact that same car but which is being incorrectly labelled by those websites and it's actually by another coachbuilder?

Maybe it was designed by Pietro Frua whilst he was at Stabilimenti Farina but was built by Farina - not that they are in any way obscure, but am I on the right track?

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #26 on:** April 19, 2016, 08:50:12 AM »

When I found that car, I immediately compared it with the barchetta by Frua.
My source (an article about this coachbuilder in a magazine) reports a different Coachbuilder and designer, but now that I found a couple of period pics of the Frua-bodied one, they indeed look the same.

The article (not only the caption) reports that "he worked on Lancia and Fiat chassis, realizing bodies that, in the Concorso d'Eleganza in XXXXXX and XXXX, won the 2nd prize. In these occasions he showed two prototipes, always designed by XXXXx, one based on a Lancia Aprilia chassis and another on a Fiat 1100 one. One picture shows an elegant 1100 S Spider" and the caption reads "The 1100 designed by XXXXX, 2nd at the Concorso d'Eleganza in XXXXX."

I do not trust that magazine 100 %, but the Coachbuilder is pretty obscure and all the pictures there (and info) came from its archive...

Carnut · « **Reply #27 on:** April 19, 2016, 09:10:01 AM »

Those first 2 prize-winning designs then: were they designed by Michelotti?

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #28 on:** April 19, 2016, 09:12:02 AM »

Not Michelotti.

Carnut · « **Reply #29 on:** April 19, 2016, 09:14:51 AM »

Coggiola?
Is Accossato obscure enough to be the coachbuilder?!

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #30 on:** April 19, 2016, 09:20:25 AM »

Not Coggiola and not Accossato.
This obscure coachbuilder was featured here with another Fiat*.

Carnut · « **Reply #31 on:** April 19, 2016, 09:53:39 AM »

Revelli di Beaumont?
There are a lot more obscure coachbuilders than there were ever well-known ones....

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #32 on:** April 19, 2016, 10:57:05 AM »

Yes! Revelli is the designer, at least according to my source.
In the meantime I found a similar design by Frua:

Carnut · « **Reply #33 on:** April 19, 2016, 11:24:34 AM »

Built by Casaro?

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #34 on:** April 19, 2016, 11:27:36 AM »

Not Casaro...much more obscure.

Carnut · « **Reply #35 on:** April 19, 2016, 11:57:12 AM »

Garavini?

oko94 · « **Reply #36 on:** April 19, 2016, 12:18:51 PM »

Was that coachbuilder active only during the 40s ?

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #37 on:** April 19, 2016, 03:37:02 PM »

according to the list of Coachbuilders of als15, not only the 40s.

oko94 · « **Reply #38 on:** April 19, 2016, 03:47:02 PM »

Was that coachbuilder active after 1960 ?

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #39 on:** April 19, 2016, 04:14:32 PM »

Nope...

oko94 · « **Reply #40 on:** April 19, 2016, 04:19:06 PM »

Was that coachbuilder active before 1940 ?

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #41 on:** April 19, 2016, 05:50:00 PM »

Yes...

Carnut · « **Reply #42 on:** April 20, 2016, 04:33:15 AM »

Quote from: Carnut on April 19, 2016, 11:57:12 AM

Garavini?

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #43 on:** April 20, 2016, 05:31:36 AM »

Not Garavini, sorry.
The reason of the * in my previous reply is that we have a Fiat bodied by a Mr XXXX in the solved section, but in als15 list here:
http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/news-information-and-feedback/the-encyclopaedia-of-italian-coachbuilders/
you'll find the name of his firm, not his own.

Carnut · « **Reply #44 on:** April 20, 2016, 06:01:15 AM »

Quote from: Paul Jaray on April 20, 2016, 05:31:36 AM

Not Garavini, sorry.
The reason of the * in my previous reply is that we have a Fiat bodied by a Mr XXXX in the solved section, but in als15 list here:
http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/news-information-and-feedback/the-encyclopaedia-of-italian-coachbuilders/
you'll find the name of his firm, not his own.

Is that Mr Maestri?
There must be about 1000 names of Carrozzerie in Alessandro's list, the vast majority of them obscure, so It isn't really a great help.
But let's try one: Carrozzeria Figini?

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #45 on:** April 20, 2016, 07:36:58 AM »

Not Maestri.
I'd like to help more, but can't see how.
I think if you narrow down the list it would be easier (I don't mind professional or unprofessional methods

)
My clue about the Coachbuilder's company name and the man's name can be helpful if read in the right way.

Carnut · « **Reply #46 on:** April 20, 2016, 02:05:23 PM »

Montescani?

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #47 on:** April 20, 2016, 04:01:59 PM »

Not Montescani.

oko94 · « **Reply #48 on:** April 20, 2016, 04:37:30 PM »

Bava ?

Carnut · « **Reply #49 on:** April 21, 2016, 11:01:57 AM »

Figini?

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