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Re: Allemano's № 784
« Reply #25 on: April 25, 2012, 11:53:01 AM »
Quote from: grobmotorix on April 25, 2012, 11:47:41 AM
O.K., It seems to be the Richter-Brohm 1600 prototype with the GP-HT 32 licence plate.

I´ll show the second Hofmeister-prototype in some minutes.
The licence plate is the same! :)
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Re: Allemano's № 784
« Reply #26 on: April 25, 2012, 11:54:53 AM »
Sure, but I don´t have a name, still  :(

I´m quite sure it has been constructed by Fiedler and Bönsch, but did it have a name?
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Re: Allemano's № 784
« Reply #27 on: April 25, 2012, 11:56:53 AM »
Quote from: grobmotorix on April 25, 2012, 11:52:14 AM
Here´s the second Hofmeister car, just to show it:
It's seems the one you've posted first has a split grill as well while the puzzle car has not!

Anyway, it's the "Richter-Brohm" car as the plate is the same.
However the caption doesn't mention these names, but as written in reply #21.
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Re: Allemano's № 784
« Reply #28 on: April 25, 2012, 12:00:52 PM »
Quote from: grobmotorix on April 25, 2012, 11:54:53 AM
Sure, but I don´t have a name, still  :(

I´m quite sure it has been constructed by Fiedler and Bönsch, but did it have a name?
The book says yes - at least a designation/project name! It's easy to combine with the info you already have. Add a well known term of the BMW history and you're there.
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Re: Allemano's № 784
« Reply #29 on: April 25, 2012, 12:05:02 PM »
Another source calls it "1,6 Liter Wagen mit Trapezlinie", "Mittelklasseprojekt" or just "Mittelwagen"
which describes its postion between the tiny Isetta/600 (Kleinwagen) and the big V8/503/507 cars (Großwagen).
« Last Edit: April 25, 2012, 12:13:46 PM by grobmotorix »
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Re: Allemano's № 784
« Reply #30 on: April 25, 2012, 12:12:04 PM »
Quote from: grobmotorix on April 25, 2012, 12:05:02 PM
Another source calls it "1,6 Liter Wagen mit Trapezlinie", "Mittelklasseprojekt" or just "Mittelwagen"
which describes its postion between the tiny Isetta/600 and the big V8/503/507s...

I´ll keep on searching...

There you go! Locked for Grob!
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Re: Allemano's № 784
« Reply #31 on: April 25, 2012, 12:13:54 PM »
So this will be my last guess:

it´s the Richter-Brohm "Mittelwagen" prototype.
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Re: Allemano's № 784
« Reply #32 on: April 25, 2012, 12:15:43 PM »
Quote from: grobmotorix on April 25, 2012, 12:13:54 PM
So this will be my last guess:

it´s the Richter-Brohm "Mittelwagen" prototype.
Don't hesitate! Look at reply #21. Each hyphen = 1 letter.
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Re: Allemano's № 784
« Reply #33 on: April 25, 2012, 12:29:20 PM »
BMW 1300/1600 Mittelwagen?  :P
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Re: Allemano's № 784
« Reply #34 on: April 25, 2012, 12:37:27 PM »
Quote from: grobmotorix on April 25, 2012, 12:29:20 PM
BMW 1300/1600 Mittelwagen?  :P
It can't be 1300 if you take a closer look and 1600 is a bit too much. >:D

Mittelwagen was correct and is correct!  :D
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Re: Allemano's № 784
« Reply #35 on: April 25, 2012, 12:44:34 PM »
Oh no...

I´ve got to leave home now, so my ultimate guess will be BMW "700/1500" "Mittelwagen"
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Re: Allemano's № 784
« Reply #36 on: April 25, 2012, 12:46:19 PM »
Quote from: grobmotorix on April 25, 2012, 12:44:34 PM
Oh no...

I´ve got to leave home now, so my ultimate guess will be BMW "700/1500" "Mittelwagen"
Tatatatataaaaaaaaaaaa!  :applause:






















Give me the year and the point is finally yours. I can wait till tomorrow if the pub is waiting...
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Re: Allemano's № 784
« Reply #37 on: April 25, 2012, 12:47:13 PM »
Thank you! That was a kind of a torture...
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Re: Allemano's № 784
« Reply #38 on: April 25, 2012, 12:59:52 PM »
You know what? Skip the year, the point is yours! I have to leave soon as well.
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Re: Solved: Allemano's № 784 - 1962 BMW 700/1500 "Mittelwagen"
« Reply #39 on: April 25, 2012, 02:55:40 PM »
in hinsight an astonishing achievement having digested italian classicism from michelotti and vignale into something as freh as this. truly innovation of clean crisp form.
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Re: Solved: Allemano's № 784 - 1962 BMW 700/1500 "Mittelwagen"
« Reply #40 on: January 16, 2015, 01:33:48 PM »
The puzzle car is, according to former chief developer Karlheinz Lange, the last version of the Mittelwagen BMW 530, which was supposed to be powered by a 1600 cc engine.
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