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Re: grob 2012_02_17 (04)
« Reply #25 on: March 31, 2012, 10:09:19 PM »
I have a different year and model designation.

It is the only closed limousine body on this chassis...

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Re: grob 2012_02_17 (04)
« Reply #26 on: April 01, 2012, 04:53:08 AM »
Quattroporte  :lmao:

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Re: grob 2012_02_17 (04)
« Reply #27 on: May 03, 2012, 09:45:42 AM »
1932 Tipo 4CS?

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Re: grob 2012_02_17 (04)
« Reply #28 on: May 03, 2012, 11:27:03 AM »
No, but the year is almost right, at least... ;)

It has been the only closed limousine type body ever built on this chassis.

One extra point goes to anyone who can prove what coachbuilding company has created it.

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Re: grob 2012_02_17 (04)
« Reply #29 on: May 03, 2012, 12:21:48 PM »
1933 Tipo 8CM?

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Re: grob 2012_02_17 (04)
« Reply #30 on: May 03, 2012, 01:56:00 PM »
Exactly!

One point for you.

Does anybody know any more details about it?

Is it O.K. to leave it here until we know more about the coachbuilder?
« Last Edit: May 03, 2012, 01:58:26 PM by grobmotorix »

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I can't find any information, indicating that a Maserati was built in 1933 with closed bodywork.  Or even with that style of radiator.

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That was my knowledge, too, before I´ve found that photo and its description in the text in a 1956 quality car magazine.

All I can say is that I do trust the given information and I hope it will be identified completly some day.

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Bodywork by HJ Mulliner ?

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I have no idea.  :)

You´ve got to prove you guess...

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I didn't notice, but it's also featured in Lewandowski's Maserati book.
Apparently even for biggest Maserati enthusiasts the coachbuilder is still a mystery.

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Bodywork by HJ Mulliner ?
I think mekubb may be referring to the same source as I have.......
Perhaps he can expand on this before I post my own thoughts on the possible solution?  
« Last Edit: August 20, 2012, 03:32:02 PM by woodinsight »

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I have seen it in the Lewandowski book, and there has been no hint, too.

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The Orsini-Zagari book mentions that chassis no. 3016 has been converted by Mulliner in 1935, so I thought this could be a closed bodywork 8CM. But after further reading it is being referred to as a sportscar, so may be it is not the one we are looking for. For me it remains a mystery at this moment

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The Orsini-Zagari book mentions that chassis no. 3016 has been converted by Mulliner in 1935, so I thought this could be a closed bodywork 8CM. But after further reading it is being referred to as a sportscar, so may be it is not the one we are looking for. For me it remains a mystery at this moment
Although I have a different source the chassis 3016 may have been built up from the remains of chassis 3007 (dated 2/4/1933 and reported destroyed). Modified/rebodied by Mulliner 1935 although it doesn't state the type of coachwork.
Still a mystery..... :-\

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Re: Maserati 8CM 3 liter 8 cyl., 1933 (the only one with closed bodywork by??)
« Reply #40 on: December 29, 2012, 08:50:45 AM »
I found the same photo as the puzzle car together with a caption that states the body was by Castagna.
My source is a Maserati book published in 1983.

Here is the photo and caption -

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Re: Maserati 8CM 3 liter 8 cyl., 1933 (the only one with closed bodywork by??)
« Reply #41 on: December 29, 2012, 09:24:55 AM »
Wow, I´ve always hoped it will be solved.

This is definitly an extra point for you!