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Kropmann Falkensee, 1952
« on: February 23, 2012, 01:00:46 PM »
Who knows this car?
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Re: grob 2012_02_23 (03)
« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2012, 12:26:16 PM »
Up!

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Re: grob 2012_02_23 (03)
« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2012, 12:32:57 PM »
Seems to be unknown within the expert´s rank.

Promoted.

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Re: grob 2012_02_23 (03)
« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2012, 12:52:17 PM »
Spanish?
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Re: grob 2012_02_23 (03)
« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2012, 12:58:33 PM »
No, go NE.

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Re: grob 2012_02_23 (03)
« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2012, 01:06:15 PM »
French then?!
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Re: grob 2012_02_23 (03)
« Reply #6 on: March 16, 2012, 01:23:00 PM »
One step farther E and you´re in D.

German it is.

And a one-off...

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Re: grob 2012_02_23 (03)
« Reply #7 on: March 16, 2012, 03:27:05 PM »
One step farther E and you´re in D.

German it is.

And a one-off...

Must be one for Wendax then!
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Re: grob 2012_02_23 (03)
« Reply #8 on: March 16, 2012, 03:42:06 PM »
It looked German to me, but I haven't seen it before.  :(

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Re: grob 2012_02_23 (03)
« Reply #9 on: March 16, 2012, 04:30:25 PM »
At least one you don´t know... ;)

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Re: grob 2012_02_23 (03)
« Reply #10 on: March 17, 2012, 06:33:53 AM »
Ostwald?

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Re: grob 2012_02_23 (03)
« Reply #11 on: March 17, 2012, 06:00:44 PM »
I only have a place and a year...

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Re: grob 2012_02_23 (03)
« Reply #12 on: March 17, 2012, 06:25:02 PM »
Ostwald?
Fritz Ostwald built a threewheeler with rear steering in 1935 and the Röhr already featured (http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=4491.0). Do  you know of other cars by him or was it just a guess?

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Re: grob 2012_02_23 (03)
« Reply #13 on: March 18, 2012, 02:26:47 AM »
I only have a place and a year...
Berlin 1951?

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Re: grob 2012_02_23 (03)
« Reply #14 on: March 18, 2012, 02:58:34 AM »
Ostwald?
Fritz Ostwald built a threewheeler with rear steering in 1935 and the Röhr already featured (http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=4491.0). Do  you know of other cars by him or was it just a guess?
It was a guess based on a chassis picture I have of the Ostwald threewheeler. Now I think it never was intended to get in fully bodied shape.

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Re: grob 2012_02_23 (03)
« Reply #15 on: March 18, 2012, 03:06:24 AM »
a chassis picture I have of the Ostwald threewheeler
Do you mean this one?

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Re: grob 2012_02_23 (03)
« Reply #16 on: March 18, 2012, 03:09:42 AM »
a chassis picture I have of the Ostwald threewheeler
Do you mean this one?
No, it is visible.. :D

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Re: grob 2012_02_23 (03)
« Reply #17 on: March 18, 2012, 03:15:46 AM »
 :bag:

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Re: grob 2012_02_23 (03)
« Reply #18 on: March 18, 2012, 03:31:47 AM »
Yes I have it in bigger size with background. I'll post it later.
According to my source he made different prototypes of this threewheeler until 1945, so I guessed it possibly could be one of them
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Re: grob 2012_02_23 (03)
« Reply #19 on: March 18, 2012, 03:37:36 AM »
I have a picture of it with a body looking similar to an open-bodied Framo Stromer.
The puzzle car looks postwar to me though.

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Re: grob 2012_02_23 (03)
« Reply #20 on: March 18, 2012, 04:18:22 PM »
I´ll get back home tomorrow evening. Then I can tell you more...

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Re: grob 2012_02_23 (03)
« Reply #21 on: March 19, 2012, 12:21:42 PM »
I´ve got the builder´s name now, too.

It´s indeed been built in the Berlin area and has been featured in a September 1952 magazine.


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Re: grob 2012_02_23 (03)
« Reply #22 on: May 10, 2012, 03:42:09 PM »
Black hole?

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Re: grob 2012_02_23 (03)
« Reply #23 on: June 01, 2012, 11:43:06 AM »
One more black hole party member.

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Re: grob 2012_02_23 (03)
« Reply #24 on: July 30, 2012, 09:08:17 AM »
It's a German one-off built by Heinrich Kropmann in 1952. It's name is Falkensee (named after the place where Kropmann lived, Falkensee near Berlin).
Engine is a 2-stroke 200 cc IFA-DKW.

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