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Re: grob 2012_06_07 (05)
« Reply #25 on: July 13, 2012, 01:58:05 PM »
Hanomag?

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Re: grob 2012_06_07 (05)
« Reply #26 on: July 13, 2012, 02:00:42 PM »
Opel-based?

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Re: grob 2012_06_07 (05)
« Reply #27 on: July 13, 2012, 02:05:54 PM »
LOCKED for FAKSTA!

It is a Hanomag.

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Re: LOCKED for Faksta: grob 2012_06_07 (05)
« Reply #28 on: July 13, 2012, 02:29:43 PM »
Maybe a diesel Hanomag Rekord and Anne-Cecile Rose-Itier at the 1937 Rallye du Maroc (1937 Maroc car was an open top, it seems) 1939 Rallye Monte Carlo?
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Re: LOCKED for Faksta: grob 2012_06_07 (05)
« Reply #29 on: July 13, 2012, 02:34:06 PM »
I do not think it´s a diesel, but it most probably is a Hanomag Rekord.

Give me the right engine cacity and you´ve got the point.

(it is not the Rallye Maroc car)

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Re: LOCKED for Faksta: grob 2012_06_07 (05)
« Reply #30 on: July 13, 2012, 02:43:02 PM »
Well, if it's a rally Monte Carlo from 1939, then it may indeed be a diesel car, according to various sources (can't guarantee the didn't take info from each other, though). Hanomag Rekord Diesel had an engine capacity of 1910cc.

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Re: LOCKED for Faksta: grob 2012_06_07 (05)
« Reply #31 on: July 13, 2012, 02:44:09 PM »
It´s not a Rally Monte Carlo car.
This is why I said it was no diesel.

The engine did not have 1,9 liter , but...?
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Re: LOCKED for Faksta: grob 2012_06_07 (05)
« Reply #32 on: July 13, 2012, 02:49:11 PM »
...1,5 liter? Otherwise, feel free to unlock it for all, as I'm just guessing now.

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Re: LOCKED for Faksta: grob 2012_06_07 (05)
« Reply #33 on: July 13, 2012, 02:53:12 PM »
You´ve finally equalled my points and I´m sure you will overtake me soon!

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Re: LOCKED for Faksta: grob 2012_06_07 (05)
« Reply #34 on: July 13, 2012, 02:53:54 PM »
I know! I know! I know!

Must be a 1931 Coupe Internationale des Alpes, Lilian Roehrs?

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Re: LOCKED for Faksta: grob 2012_06_07 (05)
« Reply #35 on: July 13, 2012, 02:54:42 PM »
You´ve finally equalled my points and I´m sure you will overtake me soon!

Oh, indeed :P Thanks! :)

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Re: Hanomag Rekord 1,5 Liter Motorsport-Coupé
« Reply #36 on: July 13, 2012, 02:57:28 PM »
I´ve given you the point immediately after your 1,5 liter guess. I´ve heard all the facts I´ve wanted to hear. And it is a 1938 car...

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Re: Hanomag Rekord 1,5 Liter Motorsport-Coupé, 1938
« Reply #37 on: July 13, 2012, 03:00:43 PM »
Do you have the info about what race it is then?

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Re: Hanomag Rekord 1,5 Liter Motorsport-Coupé, 1938
« Reply #38 on: July 13, 2012, 03:02:47 PM »
Alpenfahrt 1938 ;)

By the way: there was a 2250ccm version, too!


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Re: Hanomag Rekord 1,5 Liter Motorsport-Coupé, 1938
« Reply #39 on: July 13, 2012, 03:04:06 PM »
It isn't easy to find information about 1938 Hanomags.

Is it actually a 1.5 liter?  Hanomag ruled the 1.1 liter class during the 1930's.

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Re: Hanomag Rekord 1,5 Liter Motorsport-Coupé, 1938
« Reply #40 on: July 13, 2012, 03:07:28 PM »
The puzzle car and another Hanomag coupé with a different starting number were listed as 1498ccm cars.

The second car in my last post and another one was listed as 2250ccm cars.

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Re: Hanomag Rekord 1,5 Liter Motorsport-Coupé, 1938
« Reply #41 on: July 13, 2012, 03:08:34 PM »
It isn't easy to find information about 1938 Hanomags.

Especially for a rally dumb like me :P

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Re: Hanomag Rekord 1,5 Liter Motorsport-Coupé, 1938
« Reply #42 on: July 13, 2012, 03:14:51 PM »
Here are the listings of the Hanomag works teams in the 1500 and 2250ccm class (the puzzle car was #154):

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Re: Hanomag Rekord 1,5 Liter Motorsport-Coupé, 1938
« Reply #43 on: October 31, 2012, 03:41:57 PM »
And another photo:

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Re: Hanomag Rekord 1,5 Liter Motorsport-Coupé, 1938
« Reply #44 on: May 12, 2017, 04:26:36 PM »
Another picture of the bigger engined Sturm Sportlimousine:

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Re: Hanomag Rekord 1,5 Liter Motorsport-Coupé, 1938
« Reply #45 on: May 12, 2017, 04:48:24 PM »
 :thumbsup:

And one more:

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Re: Hanomag Rekord 1,5 Liter Motorsport-Coupé, 1938
« Reply #46 on: May 13, 2017, 11:59:50 AM »
A couple years ago a couple hundred Carl Zapletal (sometimes referred to as Karl Zapletal) glass plate negatives were unearthed in Vienna. Beyond that only a few original photos appear, though he must have made thousands of pictures - he was at all Austrian and most of the Hungarian races from the 1920s to the 2nd WW
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https://rareandunique.media - Rare&Unique Vehicles magazine
http://magyarjarmu.hu - detailed Hungarian motoring history (Hungarian language)
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Re: Hanomag Rekord 1,5 Liter Motorsport-Coupé, 1938
« Reply #47 on: May 13, 2017, 01:31:57 PM »
I guess I have a couple of hundreds of Zapletal photos or better magazine scans on my HDD, too:

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Re: Hanomag Rekord 1,5 Liter Motorsport-Coupé, 1938
« Reply #48 on: May 13, 2017, 11:59:14 PM »
yes, you can find online a good selection of his pictures in scanned magazines. However as a researcher I focus on the original negatives /photos. And that's a totally different thing
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Re: Hanomag Rekord 1,5 Liter Motorsport-Coupé, 1938
« Reply #49 on: May 14, 2017, 08:42:24 AM »
Agreed...