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Solved - NEH 1567: Bertone Jaguar XJ40 proposal
« on: February 13, 2012, 07:55:00 AM »
What's this, from when - for 1 point?

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Re: NEH 1567
« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2012, 05:21:33 PM »
De Tomaso?

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Re: NEH 1567
« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2012, 04:13:50 AM »
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Re: NEH 1567
« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2012, 05:14:29 PM »
Mercedes?

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Re: NEH 1567
« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2012, 07:39:13 PM »
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Re: NEH 1567
« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2012, 07:05:06 PM »
Maserati?

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Re: NEH 1567
« Reply #6 on: February 20, 2012, 05:08:03 AM »
Maserati?

No, not one of those either!
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Re: NEH 1567
« Reply #7 on: February 20, 2012, 09:17:28 AM »
Time to see what the Experts know..
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Re: NEH 1567
« Reply #8 on: February 20, 2012, 09:52:08 AM »
This is a late-'70s proposal for what would become the Jaguar XJ-40 series.

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Re: NEH 1567
« Reply #9 on: February 20, 2012, 01:31:11 PM »
xj-40 proposal from Bertone

« Last Edit: February 20, 2012, 01:33:48 PM by Julien1A »

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Re: NEH 1567
« Reply #10 on: February 20, 2012, 01:51:26 PM »
This is a late-'70s proposal for what would become the Jaguar XJ-40 series.

It is a Jaguar XJ40 proposal, yes, but I'm afraid it looks like you've been trumped..

xj-40 proposal from Bertone

..because it is this Bertone proposal, which I have as from 1982 althought I'm not convinced about that date.

The puzzle car is the one shown in your side-view.  Your front view is not actually the same car!
Here's the original of my puzzle car (you can see the lights set into the bumper on your photo are not there on the puzzle car, and the bumper wraps around, which it doesn't on your picture).

Well done and bad luck tonyola.
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Re: Solved - NEH 1567: Bertone Jaguar XJ40 proposal
« Reply #11 on: February 20, 2012, 02:15:39 PM »
Isn't it the usual policy to lock the puzzle for someone if they're very close to the answer? I would have supplied the coachbuilder had that been part of the original question.

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Re: Solved - NEH 1567: Bertone Jaguar XJ40 proposal
« Reply #12 on: February 20, 2012, 02:34:12 PM »
Lower the greenhouse of a Ford Fairmont onto the body of a De Tomaso Deauville, and voila!
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Re: Solved - NEH 1567: Bertone Jaguar XJ40 proposal
« Reply #13 on: February 20, 2012, 03:55:58 PM »
Isn't it the usual policy to lock the puzzle for someone if they're very close to the answer? I would have supplied the coachbuilder had that been part of the original question.

Yes, but unfortunately julien1A posted his reply before I'd seen yours, so there was not much else I could do; sorry.  Since the coachbuilder wasn't specifically part of the question (but you could say it was part of the answer) you were largely correct with your reply, so I'll give you a point anyway.
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Re: Solved - NEH 1567: Bertone Jaguar XJ40 proposal
« Reply #14 on: February 20, 2012, 04:09:32 PM »
Thank you. By the way, the source that dates the picture from 1982 is probably incorrect. The styling of the XJ-40 had already been pretty well locked up by 1979. Here's a picture of the completed mock-up dated June 1980.

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Re: Solved - NEH 1567: Bertone Jaguar XJ40 proposal
« Reply #15 on: February 20, 2012, 06:20:08 PM »
the bertone prototype is from 1974:

"Bertone's submission for the new Jaguar saloon was probably the best of the three proposals put forward by the Italian designers (Pininfarina and Ital Design being the others). Certain elements of the final car can be seen in this mid-1974 study."

Btw sorry Tonyola, I was a bit too enthusiast, jumping on my answer...
« Last Edit: February 20, 2012, 06:23:12 PM by Julien1A »