Author Topic: Engine Ennui #259 - Lorraine-Diétrich engine, 1909  (Read 1447 times)

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Re: Engine Ennui #259
« Reply #25 on: July 29, 2012, 07:40:41 AM »
Your last question seemed to show you had the same idea that I had which is that it could well be a 1906 40 h.p. Berliet engine. Here's a photo of an example:
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Re: Engine Ennui #259
« Reply #26 on: July 29, 2012, 08:38:46 AM »
Not that one.
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Re: Engine Ennui #259
« Reply #27 on: July 29, 2012, 01:23:55 PM »
Latil?

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Re: Engine Ennui #259
« Reply #28 on: July 29, 2012, 02:51:26 PM »
No
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Re: Engine Ennui #259
« Reply #29 on: July 29, 2012, 03:21:19 PM »
De Dietrich?

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Re: Engine Ennui #259
« Reply #30 on: July 29, 2012, 03:54:47 PM »
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Re: Engine Ennui #259
« Reply #31 on: July 29, 2012, 06:02:48 PM »
1909 for the year, Hotchkiss?

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Re: Engine Ennui #259
« Reply #32 on: July 30, 2012, 03:40:39 AM »
Not a Hotchkiss; 1909 is correct
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Re: Engine Ennui #259
« Reply #33 on: July 30, 2012, 04:42:54 AM »
I've found that Delahayes had T-head engines with cylinders cast in pairs, and they also made trucks. I just can't find an engine photo to compare with.
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Re: Engine Ennui #259
« Reply #34 on: July 30, 2012, 11:33:04 AM »
I've found that Delahayes had T-head engines with cylinders cast in pairs, and they also made trucks. I just can't find an engine photo to compare with.

Not one of those
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Re: Engine Ennui #259
« Reply #35 on: August 02, 2012, 12:30:05 PM »
Brasier?

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Re: Engine Ennui #259
« Reply #36 on: August 02, 2012, 02:45:30 PM »
No sir
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Re: Engine Ennui #259
« Reply #37 on: August 02, 2012, 05:00:00 PM »
Chenard et Walcker?

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Re: Engine Ennui #259
« Reply #38 on: August 02, 2012, 05:35:39 PM »
Not that one
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Re: Engine Ennui #259
« Reply #39 on: August 02, 2012, 07:51:58 PM »
Unic?

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Re: Engine Ennui #259
« Reply #40 on: August 02, 2012, 10:09:51 PM »
De Dion Bouton?

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Re: Engine Ennui #259
« Reply #41 on: August 03, 2012, 04:10:47 AM »
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Re: Engine Ennui #259
« Reply #42 on: August 03, 2012, 04:10:56 AM »
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Re: Engine Ennui #259
« Reply #43 on: August 03, 2012, 04:30:57 AM »
Peugeot?

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Re: Engine Ennui #259
« Reply #44 on: August 03, 2012, 04:40:07 AM »
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Re: Engine Ennui #259
« Reply #45 on: August 03, 2012, 04:45:06 AM »
Do you know how many hp it is?

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Re: Engine Ennui #259
« Reply #46 on: August 03, 2012, 05:05:12 AM »
No, I don't. At he time this one was on offer, this maker was selling cars with engines of this general type in more than one displacement and output.
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Re: Engine Ennui #259
« Reply #47 on: August 03, 2012, 05:24:57 AM »
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No, I don't. At he time this one was on offer, this maker was selling cars with engines of this general type in more than one displacement and output.

OK, to me that says that it was one of the more prominent manufacturers. How about TH Schneider?

I must say this puzzle is quite challenging, not a bad thing, just more obscure than I thought.

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Re: Engine Ennui #259
« Reply #48 on: August 03, 2012, 05:27:13 AM »
Not a TH Schneider.

The puzzle engine is from a well-known make. 
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Re: Engine Ennui #259
« Reply #49 on: August 03, 2012, 05:33:29 AM »
Most of the known makes have been covered, Lorraine Dietrich? Period L-D engines have a similar manifold, and the water pump is on the same side, as well as having separately cast blocks.
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